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Posted By : Avax | Date : 26 Nov 2021 21:47:00 | Comments : 32 |

AvaxHome Poll Nr. 3
AVAXHOME ON-LINE MUSIC RADIO

ENGLISH: The idea: Creation of an own internet-radio called i.e. “AvaxFM” by combining resources from the users and the AH-Team :-).
AvaxHome is a large community with members from all parts of the world. Users don't only live in different countries, they mostly also have their own culture which includes different languages – and music. Therefor, people from different countries surely have their own favourite songs, normaly performed in their native language – why not share these songs with the community!?

Example: Me, Avax, living in Russia, have my own favourite songs from Russia and the former USSR and I assume, that these songs since now nearly nobody from USA, France, Brasil or China (to name only a few countries) has ever heard and under normal circumstands surely even never will hear. On the other side, each member of the community, regardless if she/he lives in Germany, Egypt, Greece or any other country, has such favourite songs in her/his native language which I never heard before and probably never would have a chance to hear until the end of my days.

When I talk about “favourite songs”, I don't mean wellknown “Oldies” or the hits from the actual charts (the so called “mainstream”) – as all these songs are already played by radio-stations everywhere in the world there is no need, to share them with the community.
I know very well, that this will exclude a lot of material performed in the “world-language” english but I think, that the fascination of “AvaxFM” should be the special mix of more unknown songs from many different cultures. This of cource will not say, that no english songs at all are welcome – they only should be “special” enough. :-)

Wouldn't it be great, if a lot of us were willing, to upload their favourite songs to a special AvaxHome-FTP (incl. a playlist) so that we could start a twentyfour hour daily program where the members of the community introduce the music which is “near by their heart” to each other.

Please, tell us your opinion to this idea by giving your vote.


RUSSIAN: Идея: сделать усилиями администрации и посетителей AvaxHome своё собственное музыкальное on-line радио. Отчего нет – нас много, все мы из разных стран, и у всех есть свои любимые песни на родном языке. Так почему бы не поделиться ими с остальным миром?
Например: вот я, Avax, из России. У меня есть русские и советские песни которые мне нравятся, и которые никогда не слышали и не услышат ни в США, ни во Франции, ни в Бразилии, ни в Китае (список можно продолжать еще очень долго). А у вас – жителей, к примеру, Германии, Греции и Египта есть любимые песни на немецком, греческом и египетском языках – которые в свою очередь никогда не слышал и не услышу я (песни на английсокм языке временно в расчет не принимаем и в эфир не ставим - потому что для прослушивания англоязычных песен не нужно создавать свою радиостанцию – для этого достаточно просто настроиться на любую радиочастоту). И вот мы все – посетители AvaxHome – берем эти дорогие нашим сердцам песни, присылаем по FTP на наш сервер, верстаем в плей-лист и начинаем круглосуточно знакомить друг друга с музыкальной культурой наших стран. Что скажете?



Deutsch:
Die Idee: Errichtung einer eigenen Internet-Radiostation, realisiert unter Verwendung von zur Verfügung stehenden Möglichkeiten sowohl der Benutzer als auch der Betreiber von AH, die z.B. “AvaxFM” heißen könnte. :-).
AvaxHome ist eine große Gemeinschaft mit Mitgliedern aus allen Teilen der Welt. Die Nutzer leben nicht nur in den verschiedensten Ländern sondern haben auch ihre eigenen Kulturen einschließlich verschiedener Sprachen – und Musik. Deshalb haben Leute aus verschiedenen Ländern sicherlich auch ihre persönlichen Lieblings-Musiktitel und das üblicherweise in ihrer Muttersprache – warum sollten sie diese nicht mit der Gemeinschaft teilen!?

Beispiel: Ich, Avax, lebe in Rußland und habe meine eigenen Lieblings-Musiktitel aus Rußland und der ehemaligen UdSSR, wobei ich annehme, daß diese Musikstücke bisher nahezu niemand in den USA, Frankreich, Brasilien oder China (um nur einige Länder zu nennen) je gehört hat und unter normalen Umständen auch niemals hören würde. Auf der anderen Seite hat wohl jedes Mitglied unserer Gemeinschaft, unabhängig davon ob sie/er in Deutschland, Ägypten, Griechenland oder in irgendeinem anderen Land der Erde wohnt, auch solche Lieblings-Musikstücke in ihrer/seiner Landessprache, die ich noch nie gehört habe und wahrscheinlich bis ans Ende meiner Tage nicht die Chance haben würde zu hören.

Wenn ich über “Lieblings-Musikstücke” spreche, meine ich nicht wohlbekannte 'Oldies' oder die Hits aus den aktuellen Charts (den sogenannten 'Main-Stream') – da alle diese Titel schon von Radiostationen überall auf der Welt gespielt werden, besteht keinerlei Bedarf, diese mit der AH-Geimeinschaft zu teilen.
Ich weis sehr wohl, daß das einen Großteil der in der 'Weltsprache' Englisch produzierten Musikstücke ausschließt, aber die einzigartige Mischung von eher unbekannten Titeln aus vielen unterschiedlichen Kulturen würde gerade die besondere Faszination von “AvaxFM” ausmachen. Das heißt natürlich nicht, daß keinerlei englische Musiktitel willkommen wären – sie müssten nur 'speziell genug' sein. :-)

Wäre es nicht großartig, wenn viele von uns bereit wären, ihre persönlichen Lieblingsstücke auf einen dafür vorgesehen AH-Server hochzuladen (inkl. einer 'PlayList'), so daß wir ein tägliches 24-Stunden-Programm starten könnten, in dem sich die Mitglieder der AH-Gemeinschaft gegenseitig die ihnen am Herzen liegenden Musiktitel vorstellen würden.

Bitte, teilt uns Eure Meinung zu dieser Idee durch Abgabe Eurer Stimme mit.




RUSSIAN:

Нужно ли создавать “on-line радио”?
1. С удовольствием буду присылать любимые песни на языке своей страны и слушать присланное другими – мне нравится эта идея!!
2. Присылать музыку не обещаю, но с интересом послушаю
3. Не смогу слушать он-лайн радио (скорость соединения с Сетью не позволит), но песнями возможно поделюсь
3. Не буду ничего присылать и слушать тоже не буду – это дурацкая затея, и мне это не интересно
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Posted By: Avax Date: 26 Nov 2021 23:01:31
2fine:


English: I think, that it is very interesting idea. Therefore I wish to be engaged in it personally.
Probably, later the command will be generated. Which structure will include the people close to me on musical preferences. %)

Certainly, it only an idea, the project.



Russian: Я думаю, что это – весьма интересная идея. Поэтому хочу заняться этим лично.
Вероятно, позже будет набрана команда. В состав которой войдут люди, близкие мне по музыкальным предпочтениям, хрю-хрю. %)

Но сейчас это конечно всего лишь только идея, проект.
Posted By: rafaelmanfrin Date: 26 Nov 2021 23:39:37
Great idea! I like lounge music and i have a lot of this ...

... and instrumental movie themes too!
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 00:19:07
2ALL

Господа, кто знает языки!

Пожалуйста, если вам не трудно – не могли бы вы быть столь любезны перевести скромный наш пресс-релиз с русского на англицкий, французский, арабский, чукотский (ну кто что знает) и поместить его здесь, в комментариях(а мы бы переверстали пояснительный текст) – поскольку есть подозрение, что народ не вполне понимает суть изумительных наших предложений – в силу слабого нашего знакомства с оными языками – заранее спасибо! %)
Posted By: jantine Date: 27 Nov 2021 00:19:34
@Dj Fine :-)

And what about you're musical taste ;-)

@DJ Avax :-)
it's a good idea, but it's not only radio did you think about of what the cost are for such a radiostation ;-)
In our country such things are impossible to do illegal
and you have to pay a lot of money for each listener, per song ;-)
Posted By: cmdreamer Date: 27 Nov 2021 00:23:04
Well myself I have many musical tastes, but surely like to hear it in many languages (even though I barely understand them (>_<)

I think is a good idea, but I have a concern, how will it function, like a "music-blog"? Where each user posts hers/his playlist and we enter and load it on what? an online music player? (may be a flash based one, as most computers nowadays have the plugin installed, but should it be on a separate window, so I can enjoy the music while I surf not just Avax; maybe one based on Java, but it takes too long to load) or can I use the player I have on my PC and just download a pls from the "music-blog"?

As I said before, it's a good idea, but I think we need to be more specific on the media format, the player, the way we'll make use of it and so on...

Please let me know if some light is shed on the matter.

I'm in, I really like the idea. n_n Best regards to everyone.
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 00:42:45

2jantine:

Believe to me: I shall try to make this radio legal.
I shall repeat once again: I do not wish to do piracy radio!
I wish to make the legal project.
It will turn out or will not turn out – I yet do not know.
But I shall look for legal possibilities.

And if it is impossible... We Shall remain Robin Hood's...
Posted By: jantine Date: 27 Nov 2021 00:59:27
@ Avax

"Mean YOUR FAVOURITES SONGS ON YOUR NATIVE LANGUAGE

(songs on English temporary banned because if you want hear English songs there is no need to create your own radio station it's quite enough tune in to an any radiofrequency)"

I think this is not so correct
It means that if you're native lauguage is english You can't vote for you're own launguage.
Avaxhome is a comunity so i think everone should have a voice her ;-)
and if you can find the balance in a good radio program you can also play english songs

for example if i want to listen to only dutch songs there are also many dutch radio stations in our country where i can listen, or i play my own songs in my own radio program ;-)
So i think it's ok to aloud english songs to
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 01:01:40


2jantine:

I absolutely agree!
But! Will agree are should not become MTV, or VH1 etc
Certainly, there are many magnificent songs in English!
But it should not be... As it to translate... MTV-Chart
Posted By: napsmear Date: 27 Nov 2021 02:26:43
Do you mean setting up a streaming station (shoutcast, icecast, clipstrean (java),
on your own server?
and if so in what format? mp3, ogg, aacPlus?
and what protocol? http, rtsp, mms?

or are you just going to embed a player and have a selection of tunes
to choose from? which is more like a jukebox than radio.

there are lots of choices ....
streaming does cost..i can't remember how much we pay but thats just to stream the encoders.
then you have the whole royalties thing which i think is still up in the air?
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 02:39:42
2fine:

Unfortunately, I do not know English language, therefore I use the on-line translator.

Therefore it's difficult to understand me.

I wished to tell: the AH-Radio SHOULD not be SIMILAR on the MTV %)

P.S. In occasion of the TV-channel: yes, I wish to engage in it. It is my old dream. But it does not concern AvaxHome. %)
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 03:03:46

2fine:

LOL %)

Sorry! %))
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 03:06:45

2napsmear:

Understand me correctly!

I not the lawyer and not the programmer.

I am an “ideologist” of AvaxHome. My problem: to understand, that you think of it.

Later we rent a server, we shall find lawyers (if it probably) and programmers (programmers we shall find 100 % (smile)). These are insignificant details, I assure you.

The main thing – a spirit of Community. We want? We do not want? We can, we can not? It is interesting to us, or not interesting?

Let's solve together.
Posted By: ProCon1 Date: 27 Nov 2021 06:32:22
I applaud your efforts in trying to make AvaxHome a more interactive community (albeit a challenge with your current non-forum format). While the "on-line music radio" idea sounds good in theory, user participation may be low or less than expected because of the "wide diversity" (language and otherwise) of the AvaxHome community.

In the case of "vocal music", I think the AvaxHome community is too diverse, especially in language, to get any real value out of such an idea. Instrumental music, on the other hand, is more universal and thus, may get greater use.

Music is a very personal thing... I think most members/visitors download and/or listen to what (genre) they like most and in the language they understand -- especially in when come to vocals.

Personally, I am having a hard time trying to determine the benefit of such an idea. One can enjoy "instrumental music" in one's preferred genre(s) regardless of its origin. But, "vocal music" in a language one does not speak nor understand is a completely different matter. One cannot appreciate something (or music) if they don't understand it. Thus, it is more "unlikely" than not that one would listen to vocal music he/she is unable to comprehend. Ergo, the big question, is how much real value would the AvaxHome community get out of this initiative when it is not a universally applicable or participative?

Please do not misunderstand what I am saying -- I am not trying to be negative. I am just pointing out some of the realities/challenges of trying to implement such ideas in a "global community".

In terms of implementation, I would imagine that you could use the same concept as such websites as imeem.com, divShare.com and the like if you decide to pursue this idea.

Good Luck!

^
Posted By: jantine Date: 27 Nov 2021 09:49:58
@napsmear
"there are lots of choices ....
streaming does cost..i can't remember how much we pay but thats just to stream the encoders.
then you have the whole royalties thing which i think is still up in the air?"

It's still up in the air
Separtly from server costs and other things, for the radio station i do my program, it's about a 100 euro a year for each listener and's that just for listening to the song where you have to pay for.
There are two organisations in our country. Brein and the Sena both wants to have money ;-)
Not to mention all the stupid rules they have.
about the quality and how many times you are aloud to play the same song
just a little example: if you want to do a special about a artist or a band you have to ask for permission before doing that ;-)
Posted By: jantine Date: 27 Nov 2021 09:59:54
@mods
Sorry i only wanted to say it once :-)))))
please remove double post ;-)
Posted By: amir28 Date: 27 Nov 2021 11:38:16

Good idea!
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 13:06:47

2fine: Many thanks! =)

2ProCon1: You are right – complexities are possible. It on the one hand. On the other hand: “who is afraid of wolves – does not go to a wood”. %)
However, it is valid: it is necessary to think over all properly.
Posted By: Avax Date: 27 Nov 2021 22:31:29

2fine:

Vielen Dank, mein lieber Herr Fine! =)

P.S. Kann sein, dass ich hab' 'was falsch geschrieben – I'm sorry! %)
Posted By: isabeau Date: 28 Nov 2021 09:59:11
@ Avax
"I shall try to make this radio legal.
I shall repeat once again: I do not wish to do piracy radio!
I wish to make the legal project."

An internet radio station, run legally or otherwise, might easily attract unwelcome interest to AvaxHome - and what a pity that would be! This is a great community and we want it to continue.
Posted By: isabeau Date: 28 Nov 2021 10:24:56
To continue:-

The idea of introducing each other to 'unknown' songs from our own culture is a great one though. Maybe it could be achieved in some other (less DANGEROUS) way. If the "Place For Talks" comes into being, maybe we could form musical interest groups, based on nationality or genre, who could put together a 'programme' for the rest of the community.
Posted By: Avax Date: 28 Nov 2021 21:59:56

2isabeau:

I assure you: we never shall admit threats for AvaxHome.
It – on the one hand.
On the other hand....
Believe: we could not make AvaxHome if were afraid.
Reasonable risk – here our credo.
Posted By: FireAtOlympos Date: 03 Dec 2021 13:30:24
A brilliant idea! I would defintely be a listener and contribute. (I have a huge collection of Turkish music in all genres, plus World music and rock-especially 70's rock)

I definetly disagree to the vocal music being language specific and 'one cannot appreciate something (or music) if they don't understand it'. The music has its own language and this beyond the vocal languages of the world. If not, there would not be a music genre 'World music' and so many listeners of it!

Let me tell about the radio in Belgium "psychevanhetfolk" broadcasts Worldwide Psychedelic music. Their database is immense, one of the best sources for the turkish Psychedelic music and I believe for others as well. It has already proven to be a very successful project despite (unfortunately) they don't broadcast outside Belgium.

The AvaxHome Radio idea has a lot more to this successful idea, especially;
- Being online and available to world-wide listeners
- A community based contribution rather than one or a couple of person's taste

I am looking forward to the potential collective Worldwide taste that may develop via such a project. At a minimum, as a World music fan, I am looking forward to meet and hear selected music from many countries, rather than the commercial ones allowed by the money-makers of the music industry. The Russian music has a lot more than Tatu and Kalinka, isn't it? :-)

The organisation and technical structure are surely to be considered, but these are just parts of project implementation I suppose...
Posted By: progger Date: 20 Jun 2022 01:58:12
I may not hold a big archive of music in my own native language - Portuguese - but this is a very interesting idea!

I'm pro _open_ formats, like ogg, so that there'd be less legal "headaches" for all of us.

What about a podcast?
Posted By: Kwapisc Date: 30 Nov 2021 12:39:28
I am in NYC and only understand English. So I thought why not place LINKS to some of the members favorite sites. These could be added or deleted by popularity. For example, I listen to KQRS-FM from Minneapolis/St Paul Minnisotta. It is on Central time which is 1 hour later than NYC (7:AM here is 6:AM there). It has a great Morning show (afternoon & evening in Europe & Asia) and plays the biggest variety of Classic Rock that I've heard, better than it's sister channel in NYC.
This link goes right to the player:
http://gateway.andohs.net/player/default_noax.aspx?nid=2920&sid;=1059
(unfortunately it requires latest Win Media Player)(I'm trying to hack it to play in WinAmp.
The homepage is @: http://www.92kqrs.com/default.asp
It also has a Workforce Payroll feature that may only be good in USA & Canada, but worth a try for elsewhere. This feature is a one time sign up as a Workforce member(anytime). They start hiring every weekday morning before 9 (I am uncertain when they quit hiring for the day.) Then if you hear your name on the air, call (651) 989-ROCK or (651) 989-ROLL within nine minutes and 25 seconds, and you're on the clock at $100 an hour until another name is announced, if that person doesn't call in you stay on the payroll for another hour.
Thanks & Good Luck
Kwapisc in NYC
Posted By: tzarap Date: 17 Dec 2021 07:59:26
actually, so interested
I got many audio files , but my network is so wack...
this is a very very good !!!
Posted By: rasatareitafanas Date: 22 Feb 2022 00:03:21
Sorry people, but there are countless internet radio stations around - - - do we REALLY need another one?

Take care, AvaxHome. You reached the peak. Don't stumble by overblowing things.

My two (Euro)Cents...
Posted By: avicebron Date: 07 Mar 2022 17:48:33
Нормальная идея! Работаю на радио. Хорошей русской музыки появляется всё больше. Если что, я с вами!
Posted By: Mecanicu Date: 03 Apr 2022 19:42:03
Great idea, i have many romanian songs for all to hear :D
Posted By: alaschapas Date: 27 Apr 2022 11:26:20
Good idea!
Posted By: coolphantom Date: 07 May 2022 02:31:29
Hi, this is the spanish translation of the 1st part of the text, (because a lot of users are spanish or latin american as me)just in case you want to add it to the original post :

ENGLISH: The idea: Creation of an own internet-radio called i.e. “AvaxFM” by combining resources from the users and the AH-Team :-).
AvaxHome is a large community with members from all parts of the world. Users don't only live in different countries, they mostly also have their own culture which includes different languages – and music. Therefor, people from different countries surely have their own favourite songs, normaly performed in their native language – why not share these songs with the community!?

ESPAÑOL: La idea: Crear una radio en internet propia, llamada pór ejemplo: "AvaxFM" conmbinando recursos de los usuarios y del equipo de AH :-).
AvaxHome es una gran comunidad con miembros de todas partes del mundo. Los usuarios no solo viven en diferentes paises, tambien tienen su propia cultura, que incluye diferentes lenguajes y musica.Seguramente la gente de diferentes paises tienen sus propias canciones favoritas, normalmente cantadas en su lenguaje nativo, entonces, por que nocompartir estas canciones con la comunidad de AH?

And de translation of the poll:

1 - Es una gran idea! Seguramente suba mis canciones favoritas!!!!!

2 - No estoy seguro de subir canciones pero estaria interesado en escuchar.

3 - Es dificil para mi escuchar radio via internet (mi conexion es lenta) pero trataria de subir algunas canciones.

4 - Es una idea estupida. No escuchare ni subire nada.

And now my opinion: It's a great idea. I like to know the differents cultures, and music it's a way of get an approach of them.
Posted By: super0zero Date: 29 May 2022 02:36:50
I like the radio on line
Posted By: bobby_soltani Date: 26 Jun 2022 04:39:30
I think, that it is very good idea and I do my best to help you and make it possible :)
Thank you.
Bobs from IRAN
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