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Otar Iosseliani-Iko shashvi mgalobeli ('Once Upon a Time There Was a Singing Blackbird') (1970)

Posted By : FNB47 | Date : 18 Jul 2007 09:40:00 | Comments : 12 |
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Otar Iosseliani-Iko shashvi mgalobeli ('Once Upon a Time There Was a Singing Blackbird') (1970)
729 MB | 1:17:44 | Georgian with English+French s/t | XviD, 1140 Kb/s | 512x384

Iosseliani’s contemporary fables of modern life and traditional values have been compared to the classic comedies of French master Jacques Tati. Shrewdly whimsical and filmed with a poetic casualness, Iosseliani’s universe is one of joyous pessimism. (-DVD back cover)




There are many films which are made,were made and will be made.But the thing to remember is that a film that is a motion picture or a feature film is of no use at all if it just remain a plastic material (plastic film on which a film is shot).In the same manner there are many great filmmakers who don't make film.What they do is to make reality visible on a film.I am thrilled to say that the great Georgian master Otar Iosseliani is one such rare filmmaker who is a great painter of human sentiments on the plastic material.Iko Shashvi Mgalobeli is one of his best works.My personal opinion is that it has ample elements which are common to our daily existence. This is an ideal reason for admiring this film.The essence of this film lies in its championing the cause of simplicity as it is the best human virtue.Have you ever wondered whether a film can have therapeutic effect ? No.In that case please watch this film.Its sad disposition will surely transform you into a mature person. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0151035/usercomments)




The communist regime did not like at all Ioseliani's movie, which became "widely" visible only a long time after it was shot. The hero is rather lazy and does not care much about the communist ethos of the time and the ideal of a whole nation at work. The film is about being happy far from a madly competing crowd and Ioseliani's message may also apply to today's capitalistic society. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0151035/usercomments)




The main character has no substantial relationships with anyone but especially not with himself. He is constantly fiddling with his hands and partying with acquaintances or flirting with an endless parade of women. He has ambitions to write music and tailor a suit but he's too easily distracted and never finishes anything. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0151035/usercomments)



Iosseliani in the middle


Simply put, he lacks introspection. To make that point clear the director has the main character repeatedly peering through scopes, cameras, microscopes and telescopes. He's constantly, obliviously exploring the world around him, but he never contemplates himself. He makes time for and promises favors to anyone and everyone who randomly stumbles into his life, but never has time for himself. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0151035/usercomments)









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Posted By: kharmok Date: 18 Jul 2007 10:29:59
I love seeing these strange letters on Avax !

Many thanks!


P.S. Do you have other Georgian directors, Abuladze and Nana Dzhordzhadze? I loved "Robinson Crusoe in Georgia " and am looking for it for 10 yrs. Abuladze, I think it was his film I saw once and liked it as well...
Posted By: YuKnts Date: 18 Jul 2007 11:54:09
Russian s/t:
http://www.subtitry.ru/redirect.php?movie=82371284
Posted By: FNB47 Date: 18 Jul 2007 12:59:54

kharmok, I will post from Abuladze in the future, but I dont have (and never seen) "Robinson Crusoe in Georgia". I love Iosseliani films best. He is one of my top-favorites. He is a living legend. Sooo authentic... a real wise man... second to none... Long Live Iosseliani... :))
Unfortunately I cant post 2 of his movies that are ranking first two positions in my Iosseliani-preferential-order-list.
1-La Chasse aux papillons (1992)
2-Les Favoris de la lune (1984)
I have seen them at movie-theatres many times. I have them both. I have them as VHS tapes and I have them as *.avi files, downloaded from ed2k... but they are in French and I cant find English subtitles for them... thats why I cant post 2 of my best-favorite-Iosseliani-films at Avax-pages. In fact it seems to me that they dont need subtitles because very little dialog and they are straightforward (at least I think so... maybe I watched them so many times and begun to think like this...:)) (btw: I bet nazgul heve them with Eng. subtitles... he seems to be a magician... :))

Posted By: nazgul_epheles Date: 18 Jul 2007 16:07:12
Hi,FNB

Yeah,you know...Iosseliani said ''"For me, the best film -- the true film -- is the kind which requires no translation."

I have seen some of his films didn't have any dialogue...So,subtitles is not the problem.I can't help you on ''Papillons'' :( , I have seen this and I think this movie doesn't need subtitles(btw:very ''fun'')

And ''Les Favoris de la lune''...
I found Russian subtitles.A guy used babelfish or something like this to make an English one.But it's not so good.If you want I can ask some of my friends to translate it.You know,our world needs some distinctive directors like Otar...Now a lot of them left...

(btw:I'm not a magician.You know,some time ago,I promised you to post ''Megaleksandros''...It is in one of my all-time favourites(with a lot of Angelopoulos's films:''Travelling Players,Ulysee's Gaze,Landscape In the Mist).But I have only this film subtitles in my language.So I have tried to ''translate'' subtitles into English.Not easy but I will never give up :)
Posted By: roocoon Date: 18 Jul 2007 16:24:31
It beats me how you managed to get such a great collection of movies but I'm sure glad you did.
Thank you for sharing them with us.

Sorry for posting some requests in your thread but I don't see how else can I ask here.

I'm looking for English subtitles for the following (I got the movie rips off eDonkey). I'm not very optimistic since I've done an exhaustive search for them but here it goes:

1. Seiichiro Uchikawa's 'Sanshiro Sugata' (or 'Judo Saga') (1965 release, not the 1943 Kurosawa release)

2. Grigori Kozintsev's 'Don Kikhot'

3. Claude Lelouche's 'Les uns et les autres'

4. Robert Redford's 'The Milagro Beanfield war'.

Also, any rip of a movie I used to have (but lost the tape):

'Madame Sousatska' with Shirley McLaine.

Thanks in advance for any pointers.
Posted By: FNB47 Date: 18 Jul 2007 20:39:55

Hello nazgul, "Blaq Out" of France had released all of Otar's work as very good quality DVDs:
http://www.blaqout.com/site2/catalog/profile.php?movie_id=36
but unfortunately most of them have no Eng. subtitles. I agree with you that they dont need subtitles... but still I am looking for some friends of mine to do the FR-> Eng. translation. Thanks for your offer about Iosseliani translations but let me try more for a while...
I think you remember my opinion on Angelopoulos movies. It has been almost three decades that I've been watching Angelopoulos movies. I must admit that none of them striked me much and some weak points of his movies made me uncomfortable most of the time. That was why I watched his movies only one or two or at most three times each. "Megalexandros" is the only one that I've never seen. It won Venice Film Festival award (you know it is the most prestigous film award in cinema-wotld). So, for a last hope, I want to watch it and I want to be a Angelopoulos fan like most of the internet-age-film-lovers :)
Thanks for your continuing efforts on translating the movie. As usual, there is no need to hurry. I've been waiting to watch it more than 20 years... be sure that I can wait as much :))

Posted By: nazgul_epheles Date: 19 Jul 2007 06:46:46
Yeah,I remember.His films have a lot of extremely long takes so the first time I saw them I also don't like much.But...when I saw them the second time,I thinked they are one of the best of all-time.His distinctive way of storytelling(especially in Travelling Players) is great...

I will upload ''Travelling Players'' in next week.Hope you re-watch it(I remember Wajda said:"Yes, this film has a new language. It's this, it's that, but it also has a secret."


Posted By: FNB47 Date: 19 Jul 2007 08:24:30
nazgul, my points werent about long-takes... just the opposite, I like long-takes which are (if I am not wrong) first used by Antonioni in late 50s and/or early 60s. "Long-takes" and "dead-times" are brand-names of Antonioni films. You probably know, for me, Tarkovskiy and Antonioni are above all classifications... nobody can reach their level. Another contemporary "long-take" & "dead-times" master is Tsai Ming-Liang whose style and movie-language is second to none. I adore his work. And some other examples Bruno Dumont, Naomi Kawase... they all use long-takes heavily... they are my top-favorites of contemporary-emerging-cinema. If above names put their camera against an empty wall and shot it couple of minutes... they know how to meld that dull-wall-scene in their movie very-well... Unfortunately I cant say the same thing for Angelopoulos. I admire Angelopoulos's knowledge of cinema. He is a real movie-buff, a movie scholar... I know he admires Antonioni, Bergman, Godard and all... so he surely has a good taste of films... But you know "to know" doesnt result in "perfectly applying your knowledge in practise"...
I've seen "Travelling Players" at least 2 times at movie-theatres in old days. I dont have it in any format (in fact I havent archived either of his films). In my opinion "Travelling Players", "Voyage to Cythera", "Beekeeper", "Landscape in the Mist" are all very typical of him and at the same time they reflect weakness of his films very well. (Dont ask me what they were, I had tried to explain them before, you know...)

Posted By: COLLECTANEA Date: 19 Jul 2007 11:22:13
Absolutely agree with you FNB47. Aggelopoulos is for me the epitome of kitch arthouse cinema. I am from Greece and I have to say that his pompous movies have no relation with the "essence" of Greek culture. His long takes are pure imitation of Mizoguchi (although they lack the inner strength and the poetic simplicity of Mizo) and his themes are all politically correct. Of course he has admirers, but I am pretty sure that his films will not endure the test of time. He is just a talented imitator, that doesn't make him a master but a mediocrity.
Posted By: nazgul_epheles Date: 19 Jul 2007 11:38:25
No,the way of long takes in Tarkovsky is far different with Angelopoulos.I must say I'm opposite with you.For me some of Tarkovsky's films are very bad.Ivan's childhood,Solaris,Nostalghia,Offret.What I think about Tarkovsky exactly the same with what you think about Angelopoulos...

(btw:You know,my point also not long-takes."Distinctive way of storytelling" is the point.I'm sure never Tsai or Dumont can get to the way of Angelopoulos.They are totally different.Angelopoulos's films have higher meaning(you know,the story is not so important).Angelopoulos have taught me what is cinema...It's more important.I remember Kurosawa's comment about Megaleksandros...The way of silence...

Our argument needs to end here...I know a lot of people don't like Angelopoulos(you can ''search'' on imdb :) But my favourites will never change...Bergman,Angelopoulos,Antonioni with Dostoevsky and Nietzsche...Existentialism...
Posted By: Fa Date: 20 Jul 2007 00:34:02
Thanks a lot!

Cheers,
Fa
Posted By: kharmok Date: 20 Jul 2007 08:19:02

my dear friends, film lovers,

we're all different in our age, circumstances and film taste, and our favourites change with time, and that's the way it should be. We always progress, otherwise we're just dead meat...

but

there's Art there, and there's the most beautiful thing with Art when it can communicate with us, through time...I can not call dead Tarkovsky on his mobile phone, but I can "talk" to him while watching his films or interviews, about different things, and on different levels...

incredible, isn't it?

Also, I read these comments every day, and Imho, FNB.47's incredible posts have gathered a greatest group of such interesting people from different countries...some of the best film lovers in the world are here and I feel priviledged to be a member!

I love reading you comments, and from my part, I love to share my feelings with you!

I find it great when nazgul shares his passion about Angelopoulos, as much as FNB.47 talking passionately about Tsai Ming-Liang...we're sharing megabytes, but these megabytes wouldn't make sence if we're not sharing our expiriences and feelings and thoughts...Someone will read nazgul's comments, watch Angelopoulos, and his eyes will open to something new...Likewise, I got to know Tsai Ming-Liang from FNB.47 and I was amazed by his films...and that's the whole beauty in this sharing...


p.s. Just in case someone misunderstands me, I'm not writing this to judge anyone, but, on the contrary, that we understand our differences and stop judging each other's taste...Let us be humble on this site, and I'm sure we already are, and simply enjoy sharing films, thoughts, feelings and expiriences...

The future history will include the internet history, I believe, and in that history, it won't be possibl;e to ommit this webplace!
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