Великое спасибо за шедевры в таком качестве!
(Great thanks for masterpieces in such quality!)

OK, Alejx, took a bit until I found time to have a closer look. Very well done, again!

There is just one little thing: The main picture you've chosen on top of publication. This is an advertisement for MF CD-Rs = CD recordable = EMPTY discs you buy to burn your own musicon them :-) I think our project is for MFSL CDs (with music on them) :-))

How about some lossless rips. Flac's or apes while larger in size sound better over a good home stereo [or really good over premium headphones}.

<at>p645n: Ur wish may come true soon :)

@alejx 007

you forgot write: full range cd (No compresion)

I just want to say THANKS! to all who have shared their great wealth of fine music. When I saw Dark Side Of The Moon, I thought I was gonna cream myself, LOL - nah, not really - but boy did that make my day! Keep up the good work everyone, this place will definitely be the envy of all forums, needless to say.

@Bully

Done... I accept criticsm. As usual :-))))

@p645n

Better direct copy for original CD's. BTW... we can try other lossless formats... AvaxHome is a free site. You decide.

@pete2004

I know yours is flac format. We'll try.

@binbonbeach

Done...

Lot of Crazy delirious man! Who has any amount of time downloading listening with all with both ears these lot of nice musics!!!!
But I'm very delirious with full of joy with You!!! I can't help, but need to say always hearty THANKS for everybody!

@Frokami

And I'm paid enough with a comment like yours.... You're welcome...

@binbonbeach

OK, the files have been downloaded, tested, burned into a CD and playing at my HIFI equipment in this moment. Cheers!!!

It sound great !!!! Thanks a lot for so big effort and interest.

"..hey hey my my rock n'roll can never die.." do you remember this Neil Young's song. Rock n'roll never stays at the same place is always rollin',always alive, always in an evolutionary procces, like this great idea you did transform into action, giving to us the enjoyment of pure music. A very good friend of mine, used to call, the members of Avax community, The highlanders of music.I think he gave to you the right name by meaning.
After so many days "outside" seeing this effort as I opened the music section, I would like to thank you first for your common spirit and after for the high level of music.

to: Alex

"I robot" by you Alex??? ha,ha,ha,!!!
You made my day and I let it show!!
thank you so much for this special gift.
a.k.o.y.l.

Steve Winwood - Back In The High Life to be coming soon :)

Thanks, great !!!

@ Alejx

"..playing at my HIFI equipment"

At your WHAT??? Eh, OK, no further comment :-))


@ Iceshoweronfire

""I robot" by you Alex??? ha,ha,ha,!!!"

Yep. "I banana" is out of sale :-))

@Iceshoweronfire

Welcome Home, my dear friend... Really nice to have you over here again. Many of us have missed you a lot during your stay "outside". Fine you are back.

And your nice comments... hahaha, perfect. "The Highlanders of music"... I like it...

About "I Robot" by Alex!!! Of course, I knew that it was one of your favourites, so I posted it ... for you and for all Avaxians... and before you were the Queen of Quality with your .APE files, but now... ummmm, now the level has been increased... :-))) Seriously, I miss your HQ posts... a lot.

Best regards, and a.k.o.y.l., too.

PLEASE, EVERYONE READ THIS:

I have been doing some serious thinking about this new section devoted to MFSL/Original Master Recording's, and would like everyone's input. Do you all think we should use a unified standard app to image the music, as in CloneCD? I know not everyone will probably agree, but its just an idea to keep everything in the same format - easier all around for all concerned. Plus, I think we as a group would be better served if we all did a direct image, without using external compression. But hey, as I said - it's just an idea that maybe we all can implement.

@Bully

Bad boy... what does a rat doing into a post??? :-)))) Let my LOFI equipment show as a HIFI, please... I like to imagine it so :-)))

And "I banana" is not out of sale, not yet... there are still one for you, specially. Do you wanna try it??? :-))) You have being claiming for it since a long time... :-)))

Police: Synchronity MFSL is out...just it wait the moderator post...Links and files tested by alejx007 (thanks mans again).
Next: U2_ THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE AND soon: EMERSON, LIKE & PALMER: TRILOGY

thank you for sharing such priceless gems.
thank you for putting them on cd where they should go for the best quality,

@All

People is asking me about to unify the way of rip MFSL albums. We suggest to do it using CloneCD, as it's the most known way to do that, and offeres simplicity to all users to burn the CDs at the highest quality.

THIS IS ONLY A SUGGESTION...

Congratulations to Binbobeach for his sucess at Police upload... and to Toejam for Tommy post...

@ Alejx

Just for your stats: There is still a MFSL resting in the REFUSED publications - has no picture, no text, jsut links) A few hours ago I even send a PM to that user asking him to check it. How could I exspect people might read the text displayed on top of AvaxHome since 2 weeks :-)

The topic of your banana we better not discuss further here :-;)

About Toejam's suggestion: When I mentioned trusty old programs like CDRWin a few days ago, it of course also include the side-effect that it's format (BIN+CUE) is a quasi standard which almost every burner software can burn, no matter from what manufacturer the software is. But also as said before, it's not me deciding, the team has to do. And somehow it seems to me that most of you like this CloneCD. So, at least you should settle a standard which profile of CloneCD should be used.

It's great these are being shared....but: THEY SHOULD BE IN FLAC!
FLAC is the standard on the net for sharing high quality music so THAT IT CAN BE BURNED ON TO A CD!!!!

Please folks, start using FLAC so the music can be enjoyed as it was meant to be.

It will also make it much easier for those on BOTH Mac and Windows platforms.

Thanks

@Bully

If the MFSL was interesting... we can talk about... :-)))

"The topic of your banana we better not discuss further here :-;)"
I agree totally with that... ;-)

The problem with Team Propositions at AvaxHome is the same than in "real" life, at work, at buildings neighbourghs, etc... All acept something (whatever), and always there is anyone that thinks different by his own... and he acts out of control... by his own, too. So, we suggest CloneCD, but ...

@Sherwood

We can be in discussion on this topic for hours and hundreds of comments. Some people thinks than FLAC or APE formats (also known as "lossless"), are not really "lossless". You lose something each time you convert some original CD into FLAC (or APE) and reconvert into .cda files again. Others think that FLAC or APE are really lossless files. But, one thing is clear for me (an ISO, CUE, NRG, or IMG or similar) image file is a "clone" of the original CD... so, I don't want to start a big discussion on it, please, do what you want. But try to work as a Team at least for one time in our lifes. It ought not to be so difficult, I think. :-)

About MAC and Windows compatibility problems with .ISO, .CUE, .IMG, etc, I don't know anything about. Sorry.

@ Alejx

"If the MFSL was interesting... we can talk about... :-)))"

Somehow _I_ think PF's "The Wall" is interesting :-)

OK, it is still not re-edited and still no answer to my PM, so before it will be deleted, I think it is better to post it here, so at least a few people can download it. Here is the COMPLETE refused publication:

----- snip -----

Enjoy this release in MFSL, you can burn the two disc on one CD (more than 800MB)

-----

http://rapidshare.de/files/19377838/Pink_Floyd_-_The_Wall__MFSL_Gold_Ultradisc_.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/19394464/Pink_Floyd_-_The_Wall__MFSL_Gold_Ultradisc_.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/19403467/Pink_Floyd_-_The_Wall__MFSL_Gold_Ultradisc_.part3.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/19450819/Pink_Floyd_-_The_Wall__MFSL_Gold_Ultradisc_.part4.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/19456334/Pink_Floyd_-_The_Wall__MFSL_Gold_Ultradisc_.part5.rar.html

----- snip -----

WARNING: As some users report, these files are protected by a currently unknown passord!

Of course the uploader should complete his publication (if it still exists when he comes back), or do a new publication including picture and a bit information.

About "The Wall"

OK, now we have it a second time. Dauphin now also published "The Wall", and while I was waiting for an answer to my PM if this is same or diffrent release, another one of our moderators did confirm the new one to go public.

to Alejx:

So what you're really saying is:, "if you're using a Mac, that's too bad", is that it?

NIce attitude.

Instead, why not check out the other long-standing sites that share CD-quality music. They are ALL using FLAC. The reasons: ease of use -- compatibility -- excellent quality -- it's free.

@ Sherwood

Apple also learned - all the new MACs use INTEL CPUs and are able to run "sophisticated" (bad joke, I know) operating systems like MS Windows, giving you full access to the worlds largest library of software.

(Aeljx will not be with us today)

No matter, using a standard also exotic systems as old MACs :-) can handle is no bad idea, even if I have doubts if there is a FLAC version for my lovely Commodore 64 :-)

@Sherwood

Perhaps you have not been here at AvaxHome time enough to know about me "enoughly". I never, repeat, NEVER would try to mean anything like those that you understood:

"if you're using a Mac, that's too bad"

Mac is wonderful, it's better than MS, sure. I recognize it one and one hundred times... OK?
I'll repeat word by word my above comment:
"About MAC and Windows compatibility problems with .ISO, .CUE, .IMG, etc, I don't know anything about. Sorry"

When Muppets Show appeared on TV, (can you remember? Up, Down, Right, Left...) did you lose the "reading correctly" lesson, perhaps? :-)))

When I say "I don't know anything about" it means exactly that: "I have not further information about compatibility between ISO, CUE, and other image files with Mac. I declare myself ignorant about this questions". And when I write "Sorry"... it means exactly that: Excuse me for being ignorant, apologies for not being expert in Mac, specially ... "SORRY because I can't help you as I would like. "

Do you need more explanations about....??? :-)))

About your petition of FLAC files... I only did a suggestion. And the most important thing of my above comments is repeated now:

"so, I don't want to start a big discussion on it, please, DO WHAT YOU WANT. But try to work as a Team at least for one time in our lifes. It ought not to be so difficult, I think. :-)"

... no discussion, please... just friendship and fellowship. At least into one of my publications...

@sherwood
You don´t be aggressive..alejx says:" don't know anything about. Sorry" What's the matter with you? This isn't a job, This place is a DIFFERENT from the rest sites. This is easy to fix: If you don´t like *img files´, don't downloading, period. "Nice Atittude" Take it easy man....Enjoy it! These posts are for avaxians users not for others forums, OK?

@sherwood
If you have a porblem for you get clone cd "free", download here with patch: http://avaxhome.ws/soft/sly_prog_upd_30_04_06.html

@Sherwood

Try this software.. I've read that it can open almost anything if you're using Mac...

http://www.stuffit.com/mac/expander/index.html

Perhaps you must download it from emule or similar with crack or serial....

Great Project!
Its a pitty, those flac files. I prefer to download some MBs
more (the difference is small) and have an exact clone of
the golddiscs. I do not believe that nothing gets lost with those flac files, everytime you convert something, you loose something.
These golddiscs are worth to have them exactly cloned and not
manipulated.
Best regards

I couldnt agree with you more,"Its a pitty, those flac files. I prefer to download some MBs
more (the difference is small) and have an exact clone of
the golddiscs. I do not believe that nothing gets lost with those flac files, everytime you convert something, you loose something.
These golddiscs are worth to have them exactly cloned and not
manipulated"

Please people use a direct image of the cd to share you great music.......nuff said?

Well, well ... lossless looses s.th. :scratch: - when i rip a cd with eac to produce a wav file, convert it to flac/ape, then again decompress it AND it produces an identical crc/md5 hash .... then how can it lossy ??? I could argue, that CCD doesn´t have read/write offsets ... so in theory what cannot be read cannot be copied, right ? And you would call this "NO Losses".

I for myself, I´m happy to get "near" perfect rips, whether it´s CCD or lossless.

cheers m8s :)

@Pete2004
What's the real problem? Have you test an original music disc vs another burned anfter rip in flac or ape vs img (ccd) image file? Do you "hear" a difference? Don't matter which are you answer, you will get the answer yourself. You like Flac or ape ok, post in flac or ape. If We like image (ccd) that's good too. I said you this question is "tastes".
""that CCD doesn´t have read/write offsets ... so in theory what cannot be read cannot be copied, right ? And you would call this "NO Losses"". Of course, read carefully you write and thinking.
"what is FLAC?
FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. Grossly oversimplified, FLAC is similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite player just like you would an MP3 file.FLAC is for efficient packing of audio data, unlike general lossless algorithms such as ZIP and gzip. While ZIP may compress a CD-quality audio file by 10–20%, FLAC achieves compression rates of 30–50%.
Lossy codecs can achieve ratios of 80% or more by discarding data from the original stream. FLAC uses linear prediction to convert the audio samples to a series of small, uncorrelated numbers (known as the residual), which are stored efficiently using Golomb-Rice coding. It also uses run-length encoding for blocks of identical samples, such as silent passages. The technical strengths of FLAC compared to other lossless codecs lie in its ability to be streamed and in a fast decode time, which is independent of compression level.
As with any lossless scheme, FLAC is also a popular archive format for owners of CDs and other media who wish to preserve their valuable audio collections. If the original media is lost, damaged, or worn out, a FLAC copy of the audio tracks ensures that an exact duplicate of the original data can be recovered at any time, an exact restoration impossible from a lossy archive (e.g., MP3) of the same data. A CUE file can optionally be created when ripping a CD. If a CD is read and ripped perfectly to FLAC files, the CUE file allows later burning of an audio CD that is identical in audio data to the original CD, including track order, silence between tracks, and CD-Text. However, additional data present on some audio CDs such as lyrics and CD+G graphics are beyond the scope of a CUE file and most ripping software so that data will not be archived."

"A disk image is a computer file containing the complete contents and structure of a data storage device. One of the most popular and commonly encountered types of images is a CD/DVD image. In simple terms, a CD/DVD-image is an exact replica of a CD/DVD, whereby all the data is stored in one file. Creating a CD/DVD-image is actually very easy, all that is required is an appropriate CD/DVD-imaging program and enough disk space to save the image onto. Some common disk-imaging programs are Alcohol 120%, CDRWin, CloneCD/DVD and Nero Burning ROM for Windows, and Disk Utility and Roxio Toast, for Macintosh. For CDs that contain CD audio (Red Book standard), referred to as multi-track CDs (Data or Audio on the first track, Data or Audio on any subsequent tracks), a CD-image is required, as analog CD audio cannot be copied directly via the Windows interface.
CloneCD also works with other formats such as ISO and UDF files and copies CDs/DVDs with the new SafeDisc 3 Copy Protection System. CloneCD allows you to create perfect 1:1 copies of your valuable original compact discs. Should your copy-protected music CD not play in your car audio, the backup created by CloneCD will.The quality of the copy first depends on the DAE (Digital Audio Extraction) abilities of the reader. In CloneCD you can choose the accuracy of the reading process by a right-clicking on the 'Audio-CD' profile. Instructions on how to use the profiles can be found in the CloneCD help, accessed by pressing 'H'. Of course process is different but in a disk image the copy (except in ISO) is bit to bit, result: perfect 1:1 copies (remember the original clone cd image files are big) We use rar for split and compressed files (bits, no encoded music) and when you decompressed you get the "exact" full files......Ape, Ace or flac works in similar form but compressed data music in files first (how zip), you can play individual files (advantage) but you need to compress again this files in rar files for upload them.....in short: you data file pass for double compression mode.... Think.. maybe you have the answer...... Be happy ...Do what you want....in other words: live and let to live....HAKUNA MATATA!!!!!!

Sloppy organizational skills... archaic attitudes... tendancy to tyranny... convoluted English...

What is this, Russia??!!!

Ooooops. Sorry.

Never mind.

<at> binbonbeach: I have no problem, you seem to misinterprete words or a bit etchy about ccd. I said at the end: "I for myself, I´m happy to get "near" perfect rips, whether it´s CCD or lossless." I use three sentences to throw in some thoughts, you need a whole paragraph for things I know already.

Cheers :)

@Binbonbeach

I knew almost all what you have written, but I've clarified many logical questions thanks to your long and perfect explanation. Thank you very much. And I'm sure that many people has learned also a lot following your comment.

@Pete2004

I understood you perfectly when you wrote "I for myself, I´m happy to get "near" perfect rips, whether it´s CCD or lossless."

@Sherwood

How old are you, my friend??? ... and please, don't make bad comments about any country, skin color, religion or ... rip formats :-)) It's not necessary... Perhaps, when you'll be older you can understand "certain" attitudes like respect to others, helping other people, enjoing with common work, friendly discussions, share of the biggest thing you can hold... and... what am I doing, my God??? Losing time...

@All

Do you understand now why I said in my above comment "so, I don't want to start a big discussion on it, please, do what you want. But try to work as a Team at least for one time in our lifes. It ought not to be so difficult, I think. :-)"????

Tired...

Now there will be very bad English.
But on business.
To remove CDDA it is necessary only EAC.
Any other program so correctly does not remove audio readout.
Because there where there is a failure at CD of a drive, the majority of programs draw own bending around a sound signal. Where cannot read value of audio of readout.
EAC battles up to the last, and usually wins.
Further. To remove disks in EAC it is necessary through function of an image (the button at the left "IMG").
In result files turn out

*.WAV
*.CUE
*.LOG

Further. File WAV converter Monkey's Audio with an option " EXTRA HIGH " we transform to a file *.APE.
Why in APE?
Because APE presses than FLAC and the majority of others lossless CODER, behind exception LA more strongly.
But for LA the big capacity of the processor for processing is required.
APE EXTRA HIGH wins against others codec on a degree of compression up to 10 %. For CD it is real figure.

(*APE use for archives, FLAC for audioplayer because it demands few resources for calculation. But for this reason at FLAC a smaller degree of compression of a musical material)

Further.

The turned out three files

*.APE
*.CUE
*.LOG (:))

We pack in RAR without compression + % of restoration.
In a little bit reasonable parts on the size.

Sirs!

In TORRENTZ there is an album Queen - The Game (Mobile Fidelity MFSL) FLAC

1. (http://www.mininova.org/get/122413)

2.Azureus magnet link (magnet:?xt=urn:btih:K3R2MR7IU325RISE6XNBCSHX3RCU6R2E)

Who can, take it therefrom! Lay out here. It is grateful!

A little bit off topic regarding lossless/CCD discussion: who I do not see Santana “ABRAXAS” beautiful MFSL release posted, if I don’t remember right by alejx007? If you need it I can reupload it in CCD (as it was published).

@VlaUga

Nice explanation, too. Thank you very much, indeed. We are like a AvaxPedia (Wikipedia joking)... or Musicpedia or losslesspedia.... or.. forget the matter. Bad joke...:-))

@zavit

Thanks, I forgot it... now it's also included. It was posted by binbonbeach. And you can save the work...

Thanks again.

@All
Please this is not a war game!! Look...We suppose that I am a Ape/Flac fan and I think this is the best and hotest soft for rip my music cd, ok. I arrive a web page with the most posters use a different software (clone CD) I write about my point of view, but the other people think different…. but I want to have these beatiful music albums, then I think, what’s my problem? No problem. I download and install cloneCD, after I download .ccd files and burn to FISICAL music cd (main objective for many of us, what we like to “listen” a audiophile music cd on HiFi, Mid-Fi or LowFi stereo system, not in PC o mobile), all work fine, ok, erease cloneCD files. Now I rip it to Ape/Flac files and store in my hard disk or upload them for share with others Ape/ fans. Is this very difficult? No.
If you respect that other people are thinking, you will have the respect of these people.

sorry lapsus digitalis:..PHYSICAL

A word of "Thanks"...

to alejx007 - ... for spending the time and energy putting up this page as well as many other little or greater things you do on this site

to binbonbeach - ... for contributing & sharing his "private" treasures

to all other posters - ... for taking the time ripping, uploading and posting


And remember there is only one perfect copy - the original [just kidding ;-) ]

cheers & happy listening

Uuh, I forgot one thank you...

to Russia - ... for not having succumb to the MI mafia (yet) and letting us use their domain, so one human characteristic can stay alive: S*H*A*R*I*N*G

Again cheers

What about the MFSL LP. Some were transferred to CD by Dr Ebbett
catalog # 1-023, 1-047 ,2-072 (A & B) , 1-106, 1-100, 1-105, 1-101, 1-102, 1-103, 1-104, 1-108, 1-109, 1-107
All form a famous british group, Liverpudian people

Looking forward to the 2 Cat Stevens from Binbonbeach. I purchased these in regular vinyl LP back in the 70's. Teaser was so clean it has always been my "test disk" to evaluate my system. For that reason it didn't see much play, the digital version however won't wear out.

Most importantly, much gratitude to all who share the MFSL media!

May I please, please, please ask that all post CloneCD images only.
Simplicity and familiarity. Not all of us are (yet) audiophiles.

thank you!

@usc_dad
SOON.... the files (both Cat Stevens discs) are in rapidshare now... be patient, please...;))

@pete2004
Thanks man, you are a fine people, bro.

@All
Premoded (out): U2- The Unforgettable Fire
Emerson, Lake & Palmer: Trilogy

Maybe tomorrow: Alan Parsons: Tales of mystery and imagination
Cat Stevens: Teaser and the firecat
Cat Stevens: tea for tillerman

Soon: Sting: The Dream of the blue turtles
The Moody Blues: In search of the lost chord
Bee Gees: Trafalgar

@ binbonbeach | Date :: May 6, 2006 08:14:07

Premoded (out): U2- The Unforgettable Fire
Emerson, Lake & Palmer: Trilogy

Both out since 20 minutes :-)

Yea it would be great for a pure image cd, but ill take whatever I can get. To a point no lossy for theses.

Update: Steve Winwood - Back In The High Life probably wont be available for me to share until the later part of next week. I bought it from an online auction and Im waiting for it to arrive. I also have 2 bids in on a couple of others, Def Leppard - Hysteria, & Traffic - Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys.

<at>all: In regard to Bully67`s note on the "unknown" poster´s "the Wall" version (see a bit upwards): Files come individually and as "FLAC".

@toejam
"Update: Steve Winwood - Back In The High Life probably wont be available for me to share until the later part of next week" Don't worry, I have it too and others of Steve Winwood, If you can't post, I can post it for you....relax... and enjoy ;))))

<at>bully67: "Unknown" poster´s files are pw-protected...was there any pw mentioned in the refused publication ?

<at>mikepdx & all others interested:
Use "burrrn". It has the most common lossless formats on board. It´s drag & drop windows interface. It´s drag & drop for cue sheet, too. Real easy, free & small program.

Yea the "Unkown" poster of "The Wall" is pw protected. The default pass isnt working. Would anyone recommend a good way of burning flac to a audio cd?

<at>kiwi: Use foobar 0.91 or EAC. Or you may use "burrrn", if those 2 are to complicated. On EAC the proper Read/Write offsets are recommended. foobat 0.91 has now a similiar function incorporated. But be warned, both take a little bit time to explore & figure out.

Again very bad English.

In the first. Foobar 0.8.x too is able to make all as 0.9.1.
Second, Foobar 0.9.1 has much worse (very appreciablly) sound quality in comparison with 0.8.3.

In the third. Any version Foobar on the functions determined in it removes audio CD unequivocally worse, than EAC.

In the fifth. Explain with concrete proofs all aforesaid I can only in Russian:)

In the sixth. Yes Foobar the everything else, except for removal audio CD and makes records CDR much better all other programs.

The concrete reference to my assembly Foobar 0.8.3

http://vlauga.alfaspace.net/index.htm

What about the MFSL LP. Some were transferred to CD by Dr Ebbett

Unfortunately, Dr Ebbett very prejudicedly copied MFSL.
There are peak distortions. Very bad, but there are timbres of distortion. But creations Dr Ebbett very well obey on LO-FI and MID-FI systems. BUT IT is not WORTHY MFSL!


---------------------

Once again on raking audio CD.

Only EAC correctly removes audio CD.
It{He} can exasperate you, on will correctly make the business! For comparison - EAC it High-End for audio CD.
All other programs it MID-FI, especially plundering in images of disks, copy audio CD much worse.
Because the system of record on audio CD not is system of record of CD ROM!
Very big differences! The specificity!

I shall in detail explain, but in Russian!

To copy audio the information from CD only EAC!

and bla bla bla... you guys are making me a poor man with all those new RS accounts to manage all those downloads... afff (my girl will kick my a$$... I just dont know witch one will kick it first, the blondie, the brunet, the black, the wihte or the plastic inflate one, hehehe)...

Just kidding... I am REALLY lazzy today (too much ayahuasca last night, lol)

and soooo many tech aspects that my mind is almost blowing (in the wind, of course)... cam you guys remember how was rips a couple of year in the past? In a near future we will be here uploading feelings, views, smells and, pehaps, girls, lol.

Want a REAL good quality sound? Put your cleaned vinyls in a HT valvulated amp with a good pickup, that's what I do. Monkeys and snakes here likes it.

Thank you all, keep posting, keep fighting, but KEEP SHARING...

DC, philosofing on a banana's tree shadow ;)

"DiceCracker | Date :: May 6, 2006 23:18:33
and bla bla bla..."

What did you want to tell?

Once again, but normal words, please.

As far as has understood about tubes amplifier and vinil?

It you to me???? With you it is bad????

At first a big big THX to all that share this fine music here, fantastic !
At second, free download from rapidshare is no problem, use USDownloader (UniversalShareDownloader) from here
http://www.dimonius.ru/dusd.php
The program is not 100% perfect, but it does a good job. The trick with rapidshare is to disconnect from internet and reconnect to get a new IP adress. USDownloader can do that for you, write a simple batchfile with
rasdial "name of connection" /disconnect
rasdial "name of connection" Loginname Loginpassword
In USDownloader options -> misc -> "Run after download is complete" choose path and name of your batchfile, thats all. If you use a router, set "Retry delay" in options -> settings to 2 min and the auto disconnect setting of your router to 1 min. Files are downloaded by USD automatically, you don´t have to wait and type the colored codes.
Sometimes rapidshare alters the page layout and USD does not work with rapidshare anymore. Go to http://www.dimonius.ru/dusd.php and look for an update of All_plugins.zip, the programmer( dimonius) is really quick responding.

@ pete2004

"Unknown" poster´s files are pw-protected...was there any pw mentioned in the refused publication ?

No, I really did copy the COMPLETE publication before it was deleted in our refused queue. As I see now, another reason to be glad that I didn't let it go public ...

Only because of privacy I did not include the name of the uploader - if he will show up again here, he perhaps can give you the password. BTW, this upload was announced here in this page - just a hint :-)

@ VlaUga | Date :: May 7, 2006 01:45:21
""DiceCracker | Date :: May 6, 2006 23:18:33
and bla bla bla..."

What did you want to tell?"

He wanted to tell us a bit about himself :-) And wanted to hae a bit fun.

IF _YOU_ ever spent so much time in ripping and uploading as DC did during the last days, you might better understand why someone writes about something else as only new links or next uploads ...


@ DC

Seems you and Alejx fit very well.

He daily hunts the chicks on his beach, while you collect 'em in the jungle :-))

<at>bully67: Feeling a little bit etchy today (I gather it, the way you respond to a mere friendly question) ? Yes, indeed, it wasn´t mentioned and yes, you posted it here for a reason(all of this was clear, wasn´t?)....BUT I don´t see what the moderator or you see, so I took a shot. No problem, I prefer the easy route, but in time I´ll crack it eventually. If the poster reappears or someone has a hint from where the rip came from - feel free to help, pls :))

@ VlaUga
mmmm…. I see that you know technical specs with concrete proofs (I don’t understand russian, sorry)….. I’m not an audio technician, I’m music lover. Do you say us that EAC is better than a bit to bit image? Do you say this for a jitter (and other little errors) correction of read cd driver or audio cd’s structure for EAC? What’s about cd writer drive? Why do you write us about a sound signal? I think we write about data transfer (bits: 0 and 1) and final sound quality (If I'm not mistaken, we can talk of “sound signal” after that digital processor back to analogue mode from the audio data). I respect you hard work and I learn of you a lot , but I believe in my ears too…;))))


@All
CloneCD doesn’t make a image in a only form, you can choose if you want clone AudioCD, DataCD, Game CD, Multimedia CD Audio and Protected PC Game …. Because its parameters change according to CD media you want to copy. (Creates 1:1 copies onto CD-Rs and CD-RWs, writes Audio CDs that conform to Redbook standard).
The quality of the audio cd copy first depends on the quality audio data from cd, and on the DAE (Digital Audio Extraction) abilities of the reader (jitter problem is one of the worst). In CloneCD you can choose the accuracy of the reading process by a right-clicking on the 'Audio-CD' profile (advantage). Instructions on how to use the profiles can be found in the CloneCD help, accessed by pressing 'H'. Second…..Third…...etc…etc..etc.
What’s happen on the real world? We have a commercial PC CD drives (to read and to burn) they have several little problems (jitter is one of them) and they modify a little the audio data, I don’t know why on technical specs but I have read that it is truth, ( you can “hear” this on real low-bass and a little close soundstage,, but only on Hi-End systems and double blind test, other words original audio cd vs copy audio cd). Of course if you have a real bad drives or soft you can hear to audio distortion until in your Low Fi , car or PC audio speaker….. EAC with Ape/FLAC is good. For other side CDRwin (BIN/CUE), CloneCD (CCD/IMG, ISO), Nero (NRG, ISO, CUE, IMG), Alcohol 120% (MDS, CCD, BIN/CUE, ISO, CDI, BWT, BWI, BWS, BWA) and others are good too (except ISO copy isn’t bit to bit), All are make their work fine.

I like me Clonecd soft because it is easy, friendly, fast and I get excellent 1:1 copies of audio, data, multimedia and game CDs (DVD data o video too). I ‘ve testen clonecd and EAC audio cd copies on HiEnd audio system and both “sound” very good, Not great audible difference (of course, I hear a little difference with original audio cd).
Don’t forget that this is my personal point of view.....

In short: It doesn't matter that files you use (lossless or image cd) all make a good audio copy….
Don’t forget that this is my personal point of view....But please keep sharing with us…..

PS: How Alejx says: “A man must follow his own line... despite of the rest...” sometimes ;))

@ pete2004

"Feeling a little bit etchy today (I gather it, the way you respond to a mere friendly question)"

Sorry if it sounded so, wasn't my intention :-)

Yes, hehe, frustration level is a bit high currently. It's a real mess what many users send out as "publications" - you never see it, because 4 poor guys have the pleasure to either refuse it (when too much is fully missing) or to re-edit until it really looks like a publication.

You know the fun of editing 1 or 2 publications a day, now imagine you have to do that for 100 or so. During the last 6 hours I had exactly 2 !! publiactions which did not nneed any re-editing. Great, eh?

The above links are from a publication which had to be refused because it included no picture, no info, just the links. Wee keep such ublications for about 3 days, so the creator can add missing parts and go public. The creator of this publication did nothing, even no reponse to a private mail, so I put his work here before it was sent to nirvana.

BTW, today we also have a "great" Rolling Stones collection as new publication. 15 Stones albums raped to 1 CD ... and the publisher even put a line in promote part (for index pages) claiming "Most are mono-records 128 Kbps is a good quality". I talked about frustration level before, right? :-)

On the other hand, yesterday we had a release of mp3 files at 400 kbps :-))

@All

Sorry for staying "outside" so long, but beaches at my islands are like drugs... almost like AvaxHome... You understand me...:-)))

@pete2004

Very nice and friendly words I read above.

@All

We'll I see that you have not being bored... Nice comments, nice discussions... a lot of info about technical questions ... "The Chief of All Moderators" :;-) taking care of us and our publications... (Thanks God now we have a moderator that answer our questions and spend time that he doesn't have in staying with us)...

And... PERFECT... I'm proud to see once again that our Music Community has grown up until disereable levels...

@binbonbeach

From all programs which you have named, only EAC the specialized program for work with audio CD.
According to specification REDBOOK.
Only EAC can determine displacement of drives.
The matter is that audio CD are coded differently CDROM.
Rid-Solomon code.
Therefore when the drive cannot count sequence of the data with audio CD (in any internal format - WAV, CCD, etc), it according to the algorithm incorporated in the reading program starts to replace bad readout by yourself the calculated values of readout.
And so, only EAC is able to make it CORRECTLY.
Because only it is made specially for CDDA.
EAC is not able to read CDROM! Only audio CD.
And only it is able to determine displacement of drives.

Yes, there are other programs, which declare for reading audio CD, for example Clone CD. But it is not able to determine displacement of drives for audio CD.


EAC initially plunders in WAV a file, the standard for sound files. Further you can choose, in what lossless a format to compress WAV a file.

You understand, I here have no desire to defend the personal point of view! For me, as well as for you the main this quality of a sound!

It is a page with amplifiers by which I make for myself. I hope to you my care becomes clear. http://astral-for.narod.ru/

Necessarily switch off function NORMALIZATION in any programs for audio CD!

The big request!
Lay out please MFSL Queen " The GAME " and MFSL 10CC "Original Soundtrack" ! Please!

@VlaUga
Very thanks for your clear and fast answer to me...I learn a new thing everyday and on this music way you did open a interesting field to me. Thanks again...VlaUga...mmmm...Do you build the astral tube amplifiers? Excelent work man....It's a pleasure I meet you. Thanks for the link I go to see it.

Thanks to you all!
Meanwhile, anyone knows the password for "the Wall" of
the unknown poster?
Regards

@VlaUga: All well said, i couldn´t have done it any better ;-). What´s then in your opinion the best way to burn these CCD image(s)? Just using the standard CCD audio profile or any other sugg. to try out ??

Yes, it would be very nice, if someone tells us the best way
to burn those images. If I understood correctly, we should use
EAC to burn our disks?
After all that I am burned out!

<at>bully67: Thank´s for your words. I can vividly imagine what you´re going thru sometimes ... (as well as the other 3 fellows).

<at>laila: The best way to burn "lossless" files would be EAC. For ease of use you could turn to "burrrn". However I don´t know, how accurate it will burn, ´cause of the missing offsets. An offset is an adjustment to the inaccuracy of (consumer) burners. Go to accuraterip.com for read-offsets on many burners. There are also a few sites on EAC (just google). For starters you could use this EAC-bundle complied by arvex.de. I hope this helps.

@ pete2004
Thank you for the information. I had no idea that burning a accurat
disk is so difficult. If I understood correctly, simply burning one of those downloaded MFSL disks I do not get a exact copy, cause of
inaccuracy of consumer burners etc.
So, if I want a 100% exact copy of an MFSL disk, what have I to do?
Using Clone CD, adjusting Audio-Extraction as you mentioned in an earlier post, and do the image? Is this right? Then burning this image gives me a 100% exact copy independent of the accuracy of consumer burners ? Right?
Then for uploading I have to split the image. With WinRar, something get lost? Or have I to use a normal file-splitter, without any compression?
Thank you very much for you instructions and advices.
Regards

Well, about CCD I´m not sure, ´cause as VlaUga correctly states it doesn´t extract the audio-cd like EAC does. In general it´s advisable to burn audio-cds at 4x (MFSL says 1x). If you burn ccd-images with the audio-profile, it will produce decent copies, but maybe there´s a way to achieve higher accuracy.

In EAC I like the "ape image+cue sheet" option. First EAC will produce a temp. wav image of the disc, then compress it to ape. The cue-sheet is ie used to burn the CD or for playback on foobar 0.83 for example. Your burner needs to be set to the right read/write offsets. For example a read/write offset +48/+18 on a NEC 2500A burner w/herries 1.08 firmware will produce crc identical copies in most cases. In the above example (w/NEC 2500a)the uncompressed and decompressed wav file´s crc/md5 hashes are identical, hence no losses.

EAC takes a bit to get used to, but once "you get it" it will be a lot of fun (it´s simply not you avg. 2-click ready tools. Plextor burners were or still are a prime choice in copying. Of course, as binbonbeach would say, pro or semi-pro are better, but most of us can´t shell out that kind of $$.

Splitting up files: Most use winrar, no losses here (to the best of my knowledge). Plus do this to verify: Make a copy, rar it, unpack it and compare the crc´s or md5 hashes. If identical, then there´s no prob..

@ pete2004
Once more many thanks for your advices, it will take me some time
to understand and tryout.
Best regards

@Pete2004
@VlaUga

VERY, VERY INTERESTING... REALLY.

oh! my english!!!!

For to burn CD it is necessary to use special programs for to burn.
Quality to burn first of all depends on the correct driver to your drive and, certainly, correct setting of the program for to burn.
If the program for burn not from a dump, has the driver for your drive this program can be used. Nero...Sateira...Alcohol...etc...etc...
EAC not for to burn, this not most specialized program for burn :)
I use for burn Feurio! Or Alcogol for those images which does not understand Feurio!.
But it simply my personal preferences.
Feurio! Is the specialized program for audio CD.
Unfortunately, Feurio! for a long time was not updated any more.
If Feurio! Has the driver under your drive it is possible with pure conscience for quality of sounding to use.

Still hardly hardly.

Quality of burning very much depends from concrete CDR.
I use for audio CD only Verbatim Pastel (made in Japan).
On my drive Philips with these CDR I use for to burn speed 8x.
To check up quality burn it is possible program KProbe2.

Update: Paypal finally went thru, so Steve Winwood will be mine very soon to upload! Cant wait :)

Meanwhile,
anyone could tell me the password for "the Wall" of
the unknown poster?
Regards

@All

Sorry, but 502/504 problem is becoming me crazy. Look.... !!!! The most of the page has dissapeared.... unbelievable... Same as the Dauphin's link for The Beatles post...

I'll try to update it correctly...

@All

Impossible to update the page... only 502/504 by tons. I'll try through moderators help...

BUUUULLLLYYYYYY...... is anybody out there???? :-)))

Yes, Wish You Were Here, still missing.
Seems that here are no Clapton fans!
What about, hm, Just One Night?

@Laila

There are Clapton fans... I promise. Just wait for a while.

@All

Not possible at the moment to update the page. I'll try to find a solution cutting it (making it shorter). Sorry

Wish You Were Here
It was not issued MFSL.

Here in rather decent quality:
http://kpnemo.ru/music/2006/03/14/pink_floyd__the_wall_cd2/

The reference in comments.

@ VlaUga: Thank you!

<at>laila: Wishes sometimes come true .... here you go, babe :)




Be warned: Rip doesn´t include cue file nor any scans. CDDA seems to be authentic however (flac, 843kbps avg., 270MB, 3% Recov). AS VlaUga states this was not a MFSL release, but a dcc release.

@All

Due to 502/504 problems I've taken a decision. I've partitioned the MFSL Project in three posts. Please, listen:

http://www.avaxhome.ws/music/mfsl_avax_community_music_team_project3.html, shall be the main page with direct links to the LAST MFSL ALBUMS POSTED. Only the last ones... OK???

http://www.avaxhome.ws/music/mfsl_avax_community_music_team_project2.html, shall be the main page with direct links to the FIRST (OLD) MFSL ALBUMS POSTED. Only the OLD ones... OK???

http://www.avaxhome.ws/music/mfsl_avax_community_music_team_project.html, only with these comments and your forum about any other matters... or whatever...

Sorry very much for inconveniences caused, but try to understand the situation:

Each page at AvaxHome has a limit (as usual). MFSL Project has been incluiding a lot of albums with links, covers, information about the records, texts, coming soon section and more. In addition, you have written almost 100 hundred comments (a few of them like wikipedia :-))) "eating" all the limit.

So, it has been TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to update the Main Page with the new publications. If any of you had another better idea, please, help me (help us)...

I thought in deleting the comments, but the most of them has becoming very interesting and I forgot the idea. I prefered to save them as part of the Project.

Thanks to you all for staying there....

Alejx007

@pete2004
It's a good idea, but this post is for MFSL (maybe if alejx change name for MFSL and other special gold release), I have serveral 24 karat gold to eg,: Electric Ligth Orchesta: El Dorado (DCC), Eagles: Hotel California (DCC), Toto IV (Columbia SBM) and others.
And Pete I saw that VlaUga wrote about rip with EAC but ever in wav mode, never wrote of compress it to Ape/flac..... EAC can make a image cd with CUE and wav files (2 files only) more or less same size clonecd image (same with rar files) Why you write to convert to ape/flac (lessloss)? I want to know you reasons, please. Thanks.

@ Alejx007
Lo hiciste muy bien, se nota, que tu playa tiene una muy buena influencia. Donde yo vivo, hay mucha contaminación y por eso no se si soy en lo correcto, pero propongo que todos esos discos tienen que ser posteados en formato CloneCD, excepto "raridades" o otros dificiles de conseguir. Yo borre todos mis archivos rar, ahorita
quiero hacer un respaldo en un DVD y si entendí la encyclopedia bien, con los CloneCD imagines no hay problema, pero con los flacs etc. si, porque mi "consumer" DVD sin ajuste graba mal.Si entonces quiero grabar otro CD (del respaldo), entonces el desajuste se duplica. Y eso con Pink Floyd. Que mala onda, no?
Quizas deberíamos tambien abrir una pagina de quejas. Por ejemplo
el disco de Police, conforme OdioZ y pippo.calo, tiene graves fallas en diferentes "tracks". Nadie responde si es la verdad o no.
El password de "The Wall" del post "incognito" hasta hoy no me lo se. Tantos lo bajaron y nadie sabe?
Espero que aguantas las latas que te doy y por eso te mando, para cambiar, un abrazote.


@pete2004:
Thank you very very much, -the only good thing I had today!
Regards

@laila
Negative laila, the only fault was a estrange cut between 10 and 11 tracks (I don't know why) and the answer is on the post.....I will make to clonecd image, I will check it, and I wil upload again, Now I check of copy...

@all
This is only suggestion for all uploader with clonecd image, for best results maybe you need to change several paramethers: with the audio cd in your drive > open clone cd program > select “read to image file” > select the drive with audio cd inside > next (clone cd analize the disc ) select “Audio CD” > cursor over “audio CD” logo an clic with button right of your mouse > select “edit”> select “Audio Read Settings > Select “Read Speed Audio” choose 4x (704 kBytes/s) or 8x (1408kbytes/s) > select “Audio Extraction Quality”choose Best (slowest) > OK > next > check Create “CUE-Sheet” and browse for you choose where clonecd store the files > now ok……This changes can do a better quality clonecd image of the audio cd. …..Thanks.
On the other hand, when you write to disc from clonced image files, change write speed to 8x or 4x for better result (this is a suggestion of VlaUga)….

Thank you, binbonbeach, don´t worry, we all apreciate very much
your great work and efforts and explications. I learned a lot.
Regards

<at>binbonbeach: I mentioned the dcc rip merely as a favor to laila. Otherwise I wouldn´t have posted them here (as you said it´s our MFSL thread).

Yes, VlaUga talks about wav_s produced by EAC, further up about compression. The compressed version is the same, just uses less space. Proof: Hash between orig. ripped wav and decompressed wav are the same (but crc between your compressed file and mine are diff., unpacked however the same). If the burners write offset is correct, you can rip from this copy a wav file thats identical again to the originally ripped. Hence the same, no losses. Proof: Rip and burn w/o the offsets will produce non-identical hashes. Now VlaUga prefers "feurio" for burning, but this proggy I know not much about except the name. Also in regard to foobar 0.91: He´s the first I read to claim less audio quality. Yes, 0.83 can do the same, but it´s more cumbersome to put all together.

@pete2004
Interesting point of view. If I understand you right, your only reason for compress to ape/flac is for space, Is this correct? On the other hand really I'm not need to convert to ape/flac if I don't interesting to keep up space on my hard disk (only have a physical copy of audio cd) or hear the files (though EAC can read image wav file with CUE information)...mmmm, EAC is excellent for audio ripper, that's ok, But isn't friendly for average to people, you can change many paramethers. We can to use with dafault paramethers....
Ah y otra cosa, lo de los discos de oro dije que la idea era buena, no que tú estabas posteando algo diferente...parece que tú y yo en ocasiones hablamos diferentes lenguajes y eso resulta en malos entendidos, por eso la aclaración. Saludos.

<at>laila: [quote]Thank you very very much, -the only good thing I had today![/quote] you poor thing, you better hang around avax more often ;-). Y donde vive Ud. (polluted beaches and all) ?

@laila
@all
I don´t know why but I can't to make a good clone cd image of the Police MFSL album, all my images (8 times) cut 10 track and place a part of this song in 11 track very strange problem. I suspect a audio data copy protection. Nero (NRG) image, same problem. I ripped with EAC but first time was a bad file, Second time all work fine (perfect copy).... In other words I will upload an EAC image (CUE+WAV) with a MB size siliar to clone cd image files. Use Winrar for descompress but you need to write it with EAC, Nero or Alcohol 120% (load CUE file)to audio cd....Suerte.

<at>binbonbeach: Yes, to save space on hard disc, less to upload etc. If you have no need for that, then it´s not necessary to convert to lossless. However the offsets seem to be important for reproducing identical copies & copy all "data" from the audio-cd onto the hard disc. Now, in reality we are talking "tiny" bits that are missing, but the challenge is to come as close as possible.

No, EAC is NOT a user-friendly software, too many options and buttons...you´re right. It took me several month (on and off) to get the hang of it (understand). Still there´s more to discover & understand. Unfortunately I have no solution for that, except "burrrn" has been recommended (but I never checked the hash results etc.)for easiness.

Gracias for las palabras additional. Yo entiendo su commentario ahora más claro. Sí, mucha veces "palabras" traen otros "interpretaciones" in otras idiomas.

@pete2004
I understand you more clear now. Why don´t you write here which pramethers your modified on EAC for we walking this way more easy? (Maybe We don't wait a month for learn to use EAC), Thanks.
@alejx
It can good idea, expand this project to other 24 k gold editions of different brands how DCC (they are special record and they are sound better than comercial aluminum version)all are audiophile versions...What do you think?

@pete2004 and All

Concerning Foobar. I not so understand than 0.9 differs from 0.8. Only cosmetic changes in service and built - in a regulator of loudness which spoils sounding. 0.8 has more thin options and all is able too, as 0.9. Even it is more, if it to connect with NERO 7. Therefore as Foobar at to burn uses libraries NERO. And in NERO 7 at last that function preset speeds of record has appeared. In early versions NERO of this opportunity was not.
You read Russian how I have understood?
Then download my assembly Foobar 0.8.3. To this assembly there is a detailed description in Russian, that it is able to make.
I wanted to transfer all opportunities of my assembly 0.8.3 on 0.9.1. But, unfortunately, sound quality of last really is worse. As I understand, because of the built - in regulator of loudness. In my assembly 0.8.3 too there is a regulator of loudness. But it is realized differently, than in version 0.9.1.
And version 0.9.1 by the opportunities while concedes versions 0.8.3. Therefore has decided to wait up to version 1.0. It will not be probable in this version of problems 0.9.

Download assembly it is possible from my page:
http://vlauga.alfaspace.net/index.htm , the first line.
This version completely English, only the description on Russian. Why spread assembly Foobar here? Because it is the program most qualitatively from all computer players reproduces music. Especially qualitative music. And it is able to convert qualitatively WAV in in all real lossless formats and on the contrary (and all others certainly).
And here it is possible downlo ad version HeRO 7 cleared of trash (only 25 MB). It is efficient and qualitative. In a combination with Foobar, version 7 HERO yields quite good results.
http://rapidshare.de/files/19579855/ROM_25.rar.html (KpNemo, in comments http://kpnemo.ru/files/2006/05/03/na_zamenu_nero__iomega_hotburn_pro_v256103_retail/, "Pas_KpNemo_for_All")

It is literally during the nearest days I shall make special assembly EAC for qualitative removal of images. To it there will be a description (try shortly) in Russian as it to establish on your concrete computer and as on it to work. The request who knows Russian and owns terms, to translate it to English. And Spanish:)

@VlaUga
Yes That's good idea because langueage barrier is strong...While you can write us, what secuency you use for copy audio cd, eg: if you use EAC for Rip to hard disk on WAV files, if you convert to ape/flac or other lossless files, what are you burn software you prefer, velociy of burn (I know you post 8x)... In short a resumen for all here....Thanks man for very interesting technical things you teach us here.

@ ALL - MFSL Teampage confusion

Sorry guys for missing the MFSL downloads in above publication. They will be back soon. Alejx had some crazy :-) ideas, hoping to fight the well known 502 problem we all have, and was very quick doing part of changes without asking first, if those changes are possible at all. There are limits with our software, and ideas like changing the URLs of existing publications are such unusual ideas that the software developers of course did not even think about them :-)

It would go much to far to explain here in detail why his ideas like removing comments have NOTHING to do at all with storing a publication text, so let me just say that I spent 1 hour this morning explaining him in private the technical details how AvaxHome databse and software work.

I'm almost sure Alejx will soon understand that splitting the page in 3 parts brings no help at all, but just a lot of confusion.


@ All publishers:

502s:

_IF_ you have problems storing a publication because of many 502s, wait a few minutes and try again. There are times when pages are rendered, index pages created, or backups are run. At these times you will constantly see 502s. No matter if your publication is large or short. Wait a bit until these system tasks are done and try again. And, as written many times before, try to avoid AvaxHome prime times for such tasks. When tooo much users all access at same moment, every server has problems. You see same at Rapidshare when transfer speed is falling down to just 10% of normal speed in prime hours.

Missing pictures:

Some of you have encountered the problem that suddenly the picture of your publication disappeared, either from index pages or inside publication. If this happens, please wait at least 1 hour (until next page rendering) and check again. If the picture is still issing, send me a PM WITH THE URL of your publiaction and I will fix it asap. Of course, I need to be online to read your PM, so please understand that it might take a few hours - I cannot stay online 24 hours a day :-)

This is just a temporary problem and is based on moving the pictures to a different server. After the move is full done, pictures will be stable again as they should.

@binbonbeach: Thank you for your efforts, hope the links for the Police Album get posted soon.

@pete2004: nada de playa, vivo en Mexico D.F., pero no soy mexicana. Ya navego mas en AvaxHome, porque desde quitaron esos
Amenities, a mi hermano ya no lo intersa. Yo no entiendo como pueden conformarse con imagenes.

@ All: If the language barrier for english or spanish is too high,
there are more languages to choose from, what about German?
Software: The best would be that Slysoft integrates a calibration possibility. Maybe they have an utility we could use for calibrating our shitty burners, to get our desired quality with
CloneCD.

@binbonbeach:
Step 1: Get your eac bundle here <--click me; DON´T change the default (setup) path, otherwise "plug-ins" won´t work out of the box.
Step 2: Install & setup drive options. Let eac figure out what "extraction method" your burner is capable of by inserting an original disc.
Step 3: Get your read off-sets here <--click me, if your burner is not listed/or differs somewhat you may need a so-called 3 keydiscs match from the accurate database. If you have a match, read-offset will be set by accuraterip and greyed out in eac.
Step 3: For write offset google for your burner (ie. eac write offset burner nec-2500a) or create "Test offset cd" with eac. If the (combined write+read) offset value for example is +66, your known read offset determined by accuraterip is +48, then deduct the +48 from the +66 and you receive +18 as write offset.
Step 4: On the writer tab enter this value, rip a few cds, burn their wavs, reextract from the copies and either let eac or md5.exe compare the 2 wavs. If both match "Bingo". Sometimes you have to do more than one extraction, depending on ... . If not, well then more reading/research needs to be done. But here I can´t help you much. Go to the eac homepage, the coder explains in detail how to get offsets.

Hope this helps.

OK, as I still did not hear anything from Alejx since this morning, I repaired the page myself as far as possible.

That the first 3 pictures are missing is not a bug of AvaxHome software and not a bug of the image server, they just have not been added so far, that's all.



And here are the resuced comments from otehr temporary pages:

Posted by :: laila | Date :: May 10, 2006 02:33:09
Ahorita seguimos en esa pagina o en la vieja?



Posted by :: laila | Date :: May 10, 2006 04:48:44
Please del or forget my post. I have seen the other post,
dividing this project to 3 parts, too late.


Posted by :: Lestrade | Date :: May 10, 2006 10:26:27
thank you for your efforts.
You may also want to add these albums (posted here):

Cat Stevens: Teaser
Cat Stevens: Tea for the Tillerman
Who: Quadrophenia
Alan Parsons: Tales of Mystery
Beatles: Sgt. Pepper
GunsRoses: Use your illusion
PinkFloyd: The Wall

THANKS to all uploaders.. GREAT work!

@all
BAD NEWS: a couple of days I received problems with Police: Synchronicity first, now with Cat Stevens: Tea for tillerman....I checked all my post and I found other error on Alan Parsons Project: Tales Mystery and Imagination - Edgar Alan Poe....These 3 post have a same problem: clone cd images cut 10 track and place a part of this song in 11 track very strange problem. I suspect a audio data copy protection. I tested all my post and they are good except these 3 images. I delete this files now and I will rip with EAC and repost again.. If you see this message: "FreeDB answers that disk (9009940b) is unknown, maybe you have a corrupted copy...Sorry for the inconvenence... I will do a copy of the image to test my nex post first...Hard work....:((((
@Alejx007
I robot it's ok...don't worry.

@All

The page is OK now, I hope. I could update it without "a little help of my friends" (Only one can feel touched by this comment) :-) Despite that our "prefered moderator" has made me pass as the "sillyest guy at AvaxHome" :-) but it doesn't matter.

I've discovered the problem (Bully, listen you too, please):

If you insert a pic in to a post, using the pic assistant at the tool bar, YOU CAN'T INCLUDE AN URL TO THE PIC. It makes to stop the "Save" process exactly at this point. And you lose the pics, the above text and all... So you have to upload it from your PC using the second option of the images uploading assistant, uploading it directly to Avax server. THAT'S ALL.

And I've been crashing during hours against 502/504 problems just because of that.

@VlaUga

Thanks a lot for your deep explanations. All of us are learning a lot about ripping and burning at the highest quality.

We are expending a very nice time reading your comments.

Hi, I've bought a box of EMTEC CD-R DIGITAL 24 CARAT GOLD TECHNOLOGY and a few SONY CD-R AUDIO FOR MUSIC USE GRAPHITE just to burn the MFSL collection using EAC and your explanations and binbonbeach recomendations. Can you recommend any of them or any other brand of CD-R to burn this albums at the highest quality, too.

I've sent the whole covers collection to a professional laser print shop and they look great for the plastic boxes. The only one problem are the print of the CD's cover, that I'm doing on plated paper with a HP ink printer and it's too difficult to adjust it perfectly without losing a lot of prints. But this is only for decorating the collection. Obviously the most important is Sound Quality.

@Laila

Vamos a seguir en este post. Los otros se los cargó Bully (el moderador) y al final, creo que vamos bien. Only time will tell.

We carry on at this post. Forget the others. The idea was no good.

@Pete2004

Saving space in this special collection is not so important following my point of view. I think that you are entering into this idea too, after reading VlaUga and binbonbeach comments... isn't it???

@Binbonbeach

If you (and the rest) consider that we ought to change to Project name to "MFSL and other special gold release for audiophiles " we can do that. No problem. All these other albums are for audiophiles, too. The idea was QUALITY, not only MFSL...

Thank you very much for testing I Robot, and good news for me... Sorry for you again. I tried the albums but only the downloads, the burning on CD and listening to the beginning of a few songs. Not complete. Sorry very much for this problem found. Take it easy, my friend.

Well, let's carry on with the idea. Just tell me about to change the Project Name. I only have a Deep Purple Gold Edition for audiophiles.

@alejx007
I think if you change team project name you expand our possibilities to get other excelent audiophiles copy... but this is only my opinion, What about the others users? I have....Maybe other 6 or 8 gold discs (different brand of MFSL). I have many of chesky records, telarc, etc, but this is a different history..;))

@binbonbeach

OK. Let's see the other users opinion. I agree totally with you. But.... this is a TEAM PROJECT. So the other members need to be listened, too. And I don't know why, but I'm almost sure that they'll agree, too...

@alex007: para mi no eres el mas tonto de avaxhome. Siempre hay
tipos que nunca estan y despues saben todo mejor. Para mi hiciste lo unico correcto: hacer que las paginas funcionan y eso es lo unico que cuenta.

@Laila

Gracias, de verdad. En serio que ciertos comentarios ayudan muchisimo. Un beso grande desde Canarias.

@ Alejx

"The page is OK now,"

Sure, I created it :-))

"I could update it without "a little help of my friends" (Only one can feel touched by this comment) :-)"

Yep, just saw you added the new albums. Of course I cannot promise you that 502s will never hit you again :-), but as described in the PMs you should be free of the trashed -page - problem.

"Despite that our "prefered moderator" has made me pass as the "sillyest guy at AvaxHome" :-) but it doesn't matter.

"Prefered"?? Just a few hours ago you talked about killing me :-) And I do not think that someone sees you as silly. You didn't know the details how publications and comments are handled in the databse, so I'm sure you really thought removing comments would help you with performance.

About problems with adding image:

I think the FAQ desribes very well how to add an image :-) And that pictures must be uploaded to AvaxHome instead of giving an external picture link is also nothing new. The only known problem is with some browsers acting different to the code, special Opera. But with the shit you use as browser everything works as should :-)


About including other audiophile discs:

Whatever Alejx and/or team decides.

A technical hint: _If_ there will me many more albums of MFSL and other labels, it might be that you reach the maximum publication length. If your planning shows many new albums, I would suggest: (Alejx, do you listen well?): Create a separate page for the other ones to avoid reaching the limit. :-)

And when you start the Rick Wakeman or Tangerine Dream project, you will receive a third page :-))

@ All

Some of you might have noticed that about 4 hours ago AvaxHome was put down for system updates. There might be more updates today, which can show up in either AvaxHome fully put down again (you see a message) or in just not responding. Sorry for that, it is really needed. If it happens, just be patient and try again later.
Only to Alejx: This is in no way related to this special page, so NO REASON for new splitting ideas :-)))

I love this great project.
I want to really thank all for the effort and contribute...
This is a great opportunity for us.

Just a little question: in .rar of Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon made in Alejx007 ther's not file .cue - Is this a problem to burn it in to CD-R audio ?????

Thank's again and sorry for my tremendous english...

@bono66
No, Cue file let you burn it with other soft (eg. nero or alcohol) but it isn't necessary if you use clonecd soft to burn an audio disc (alcohol 120% too).

Thank you binbonbeach, it's true...... i have tried with alcohol and is OK.

Thanks again for your "hard work"...

I will wait for with excitation your "coming soon"...

Steve Winwood should be here soon, Also have Traffic - Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys is on its way, just purchaesd from online auction.

If i can...just a little request...anyone have Steve Winwood - Arc Of A Diver (MFSL) ????

Thanks.

@Bully

Well, we'll talk later, tonight, when we'll be alone...:-))) Now things go right, that's enough for me.

About the other albums (no MFSL albums) inclusion into the Project... I thought the same as you when you told me the limits of each post... So perhaps it's better to finish with MFSL Project ONLY WITH MFSL CDs, and after... we'll see...

And about your suggestion of the third page... I prefer to save my comment for a PM directly to you... Perhaps there are kids reading this.... :-)))

@bono66

I'm happy you have solved your doubt with the CUE file, thanks to Binbonbeach. Great man, this Binbon...

@Toejam

Read my next comment please, about online auction...

@All

We need more Avaxians uploading MFSL albums, if there are any of yourselves that can offer another one. This is a Historic Moment to get the biggest collection of the highest quality of music we'll never see in our life. Trust me.

@All

Today I'm very happy, because my son did me an incredible birthday present that has broken all my expectations....

QUEEN - A DAY AT THE RACES MFSL in original CD, bought through eBay auction.

Unbelievable... In so perfect conditions that it seems totally new.

I don't know if to share it with yourselves... :-))) Ummmm... let me think about. It sounds so perfect...

Yes yes yes !!!! Share it share it share it PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@bono66
Yes...I Have it... I post here soon...Maybe.....;)))

@alejx007
Thanks man you're a gentleman...and great friend... Saludos desde la playa (No de las Canarias, pero si con aguas transparentes, jajajaja);))

I checked and tested EAC image for 3 albums (Alan Parsons, Police; Cat Stevens) and I uploaded Police album, no I am uploading Alan Parsosn and Cat Stenvens, I will repost soon. For other hand this is an excellent oportunity for test Clonecd images vs EAC image (WAV, no convert it to lossless ,same original MFSL CD, same PC, same operative system, same drive for read, but different ripper soft) if you have some disc the previus deleted bad files post. Please Say us your opinion here...thanks

Last version EAC 0.95b4 which lays on a site of the author, it not the best version for exact copying. It does not need to be used.
That the author writes about it:
" The german magazin c't published an article whether EAC is or is not violating a german law against circumvention of copy protections on audio CDs. Some of the experts they asked had the opinion that the function of retrieving the native TOC is at best working at the limit of legality. Due to that article and to eliminate any possibility of legal problems, I decided to remove that function (although I am pretty sure that it is absolutely legal). I always try to make sure to be fully compliant with german law, even if I would interpret the law absolutely differently. Anyway, there are at least some few bug-fixes in this update, e.g. creating an image having the artist and CD title as filename will now show the file dialog properly when special characters are used. For the next version it is still planned to add test and copy of CD images and for the version after that I will try to implement Unicode support for freedb queries and main window display and edit. I am sorry about all this, but please understand my point of view. "

The last normal version it 0.95b3.

I looked CloneCD. It not for audio CD. It cannot be used for qualitative copying. Though certainly it very simple and without options. It is plywood... It not for MFSL, it for copying games and computer programs. Today I shall lay out assembly EAC 0.95b3 with options for APE-CUE. While without the full and simple description how to copy disks. While read a fast manual here
http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm

@VlaUga

Perfect... the tutorial include at http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm is just perfect.

A simple question. Can I burn a CD directly from a group of .ape or .flac files creating an "original" CD, without spaces between tracks...? I mean, for example, I've got all songs from Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of The Moon in .ape format. And I want to burn a CD using EAC, at highest quality and without silences between tracks. Just the most similar to the original. Without decompressing the .aple with MOnkeys Audio, creating Wav files and so... Is it possible? How to do that?...

Or, imagine, that I've got a Wav group of files and I want to burn them directly into a CD at the highst quality using EAC. Is it also possible? How...?

Thanks in advance VlaUga... and more thanks for all what you are teaching to us in here...

@VlaUga: The diff. between 03 and 04 is just the TOC, which one usually doesn´t need, if you run anydvd or sim. program in the background. Other than that, they produce the same quality. What the author states is just his precaution against any fraudolent suites.

@binbonbeach: The link for the eac-bundle (it contains profiles for various formats) is already posted (further up) It will produce fine copies. No reason to wait. But since nobody commented on my posting, well, I guess it was in vain.

@alejx007: Please remove my nickname from my mfsl postings. I have no need for being named (it´s not important - important is that the rip is clean, which they are thanks to EAC, about which I have been talking about from the very beginning).

Here the test version of my new assembly normal EAC for extraction audio CD in quality EAC+CUE.

http://rapidshare.de/files/20305085/Assembly_EAC_by_VlaUga.rar.html

Installation and the description too inside. With automatic adjustment OFFSET of your drive.
Yes, this assembly EAC c automatic adjustment{option} OFFSET of your drive.
If it is in a database OFFSET it will be determined automatically. You will need to press "reconfigure" (an exact spelling I do not remember). And if your drive is not present in a database, in the applied description to assembly EAC is told how automatically to adjust offset your drive.
The description while short, but I think, already quite clear.
Assembly completely efficient for qualitative ripper audio CD.
Test - because I hurried up and have not completely checked up all minor functions.

"Can I burn a CD directly from a group of .ape or .flac files creating an "original" CD, without spaces between tracks...?"

For to burn I use FEURIO!.
In FEURIO! all is possible! To change duration of a pause from 0 seconds up to xxx seconds.

@VlaUga: accurate only determines the read-offset of the drive. Hence you still need the write-offset to produce exact copies. The eac-bundle above contains all necessary, too.

@pete2004
"The link for the eac-bundle (it contains profiles for various formats) is already posted (further up) It will produce fine copies. No reason to wait. But since nobody commented on my posting, well, I guess it was in vain" Yes I download several days ago and installed.... Take it easy man...slowly...Everyday we must to learn a new thing. Nothing is throw to the trash...
"Please remove my nickname from my mfsl postings. I have no need for being named (it´s not important - important is that the rip is clean, which they are thanks to EAC, about which I have been talking about from the very beginning)" You sound annoyed...Why? You say that first and it's ok. VlaUga says technical especs, it's good too. Both change our mind day by day. Your nick name is to recognize your hard work...Enjoy a good music, relax...please we are a team ;-))

@VlaUga
"Here the test version of my new assembly normal EAC for extraction audio CD in quality EAC+CUE.

http://rapidshare.de/files/20305085/Assembly_EAC_by_VlaUga.rar.html"
Did You make this assembly EAC version? In short, you modified to EAC program. Am I right?

@all
What do you think abou this?

Music CD-R vs. Data CD-R: Is There A Difference?
by: Mike Waters
You wouldn’t believe how many times I run across this question. Is there a difference between music CD-Rs and traditional data CD-Rs? I think what people really want to know is if I buy a data CDR can I still put audio on it and vice versa. Well, hopefully this article will shed some light on the confusion and give you some insight into which type of blank media best suits your needs.

The simple answer to this question is yes. There are differences between music and data CD-Rs. However there is a big neon green flashing asterisk next to the yes that indicates to the informed consumer, that no there is not a difference. Let me explain.

Depending on where you gather your information, there are some articles that indicate minor differences between data and music CD-Rs. For starters, there is the name difference, but that’s obvious. There have also been rumors that the recording industry receives a very small percentage of each sale of blank music CD-Rs. However, that rumor has yet to be verified to my knowledge.

What is known is that there are technical differences in what is embedded in blank music CDs in comparison to blank data CDs. These embedded differences center upon bytes within the sub channels of the actual blank music disc. But does that really make a difference in quality or what types of information can be stored on the disk?

Not really. Both audio and data can be duplicated onto both music and data CD-Rs. I’ll say it again. Audio and data can be burned onto music and data CD-Rs. However, whether or not you can get data onto a music CD-R depends on what type of hardware is used to burn the blank CD.

If you are using a PC to do all of your burning, then it doesn’t matter. PCs do not differentiate between music CD-Rs and data CD-Rs. They simply see a blank media and duplicate information on to it pertaining to the settings you have outlined in the software you are using to burn the CD.

However, if you are using a separate home CD burner, it may or may not allow you to burn data/music onto a generic blank data/music CDR. Proprietors are funny like that. They really only want you to use blank media with brand names that they have approved of.

So my advice is if you are doing most of your CD duplication on the computer, it doesn’t matter which type of blank CDR you use. They both will work fine in most cases for storing audio and data. However, if you are using a CD writer outside of your computer for you burning needs, check the manual and see what they recommend.

About the author:
Mike Waters is owner of Waters Rock music studio and the senior technology columnist for Media-Tech Entertainment and You. Be sure to check out more about his music cd duplication services and data

@ALL
FEURIO 1.68 SOFT (2.31 MB)

http://momoshare.com/file.php?file=c390da8d8705dc50c896589fdaebd2d9

@alejx: Buen chiste el del microhondas, espero no se hayan derretido los cds ok.
A ver si me orientan en este asunto para ver como copio este disco.
Hice un intento pero nada, a ver si alguien que lo digite en spanglish y que me de los tips para quemarlo.
Gracias.Y pura vida

@tarkus
De que disco hablas? y a dónde lo quieres copiar?

@ tarkus: si quieres quemarlo, ponllo en el microhondas, pero
tienes que aumentar el tiempo, para que no solo se derrite y se
quema de verdad.

@ alejx007: No se si te sirve pero encontre eso:

EAC does not insert the gaps. These gaps are inserted by the writing program. There are two possibilities how these gaps could occur. Once if you write in TAO (Track At Once), there have to be a gap between tracks, so use DAO (Disc At Once) instead. Second, if you already use DAO, you should examine that program options, somewhere will be a flag where the standard 2 second gap could be deactivated.

@binbonbeach
" Did You make this assembly EAC version? In short, you modified to EAC program. Am I right? "

My assembly EAC is not changed basic module of the program.
It is the adjusted program together with plug-in for correct extraction audio CD.
For removal of qualitative images of CD.
When will unpack a file, inside will find the description how to establish assembly and how to take audio CD.

Once again, it is assembly EAC it is made that you did not need to study all subtleties of adjustment EAC.
You will need to execute all some steps, and you can qualitatively take audio CD.

@Pete2004.

For record of CD there are much better programs, than EAC.
EAC it is the program for extraction audio CD.
Which allows absolutely precisely, in view of properties of a drive, to take audio CD. In result the correct image turns out.
Incorrectly this image to pawn offset your drive for record! Because at other people not such drive, as at you. And at other drives another offset for record.

@binbonbeach

" What do you think abou this?

Music CD - R vs. Data CD - R: Is There A Difference? "

CD - RA (for audio) is CD - R having special labels. Without these labels stationary CD - recorder will not write down.
If you write down on a computer - to you all the same.
My experience speaks, that frequently usual CDs - R have the best sound quality, than CD - RA. Though the price of CD - RA always is more, than CD - R. How you consider, the special labels, allowing to use CD_RA in stationary CDs - recorder cost this additional money?

I shall once again be repeated. For an estimation of quality of record of the information on audo CD (to not confuse to sound quality) is program KProbe2. (In NERO7 too there is a bookmark quality in program Nero CD - DVD Speed). The less than mistakes C1 you will have on written down audioCD, the it is better quality pit at to burn.
Mistakes C2 should not be!
Having investigated different CDs - R, you can determine, what CD - R better (if to be absolutely scientific - for your drive). CD - R Verbatim Pastel for the speed 8x have С1 approximately 200...600.
At other CDs - R usually С1 = 5000...10000.

CD - R Verbatim Pastel is much better than CD - RA Vermatim Music Live it!.
Including on quality of a sound.
CD - R Verbatim Pastel are made at Japanese factory Taiyo Yuden.
The majority of other CDs - R make in China and India.

@laila: que graciosos.
Mejor me hago una chalupa con el cd,ahah

@binbonbeach: Sorry, but you reupload of "Parsons" does not
work.Part1 and 2 corrupt. Cannot repair part 2.
regards

@binbonbeach: Sorry, reupload Cat Stevens corrupt too.

@binbonbeach: Now I have downloaded 5 Albums!! (2 times Parsons, 2 x Cat Stevens and 1 x Police) - and none works how it should.
So you do not have time to read your posts, I put here some comments:
Posted by :: willssdd | Date :: May 13, 2006 19:56:48
Part 1 is certainly corrupt - tried 3 seperate d/loads.

Posted by :: adamjk | Date :: May 14, 2006 01:15:22
Binbonbeach,
After applying Monkey's Audio lossless compression (extra high) size is only 176 MB.
Please draw the right conclusion.

Posted by :: dongo | Date :: May 14, 2006 01:05:50
Sorry,but the tea was fine;-)

I think it is a memory handling foult of binbonbeach's
hardware caused by bad memory module or motherboard

Maybe you should check your archives or computer or whatever before
uploading.

I bought Verbatim Vinyl-CD-R, they look great and soung good.
Thank you and regards

@all
Sorry, I don´t know what's hapenned.... Remember I posted several albums without problems, I have a VAio last generation (double nucleo) But I uplodaded en diffente machines too. I have several problems with my DSL server, but the files in my hardisk are ok (protected mode incluse with winrar)....mmmm...sorry this way I will have to dowload my uploads first before I will post (many time lost and sorry beause I have more MFSL....) I am out of my city..sorry. Please write me which files are corrupt and I will upload one more time...:(( Maybe I don't post anymore until I find how i fix this problem....

@all
Sorry, I don´t know what's hapenned.... Remember I posted several albums without problems, I have a VAio last generation (double nucleus) But I uplodaded in diffents machines too (All VAIO, Two desktops and one laptop). I have several problems with my DSL server, but the files in my hardisk are ok (protected mode even with winrar)....mmmm...sorry this way I will have to download first my uploads before I will post them (many time lost and sorry beause I have more MFSL....) I am out of my city, now..sorry. Please write me which files are corrupt and I will upload one more time...:(( Maybe I don't post anymore until I find how i fix this problem....

Dear binbonbeach: Errors:
Parsons Project: Part 1 and Part 2 are corrupt!
Cat Stevens: Part2 is corrupt!
Police: ALL O.K.!! - Thank you!
Best regards

@All

Sorry... I've been "outside" since friday and I've left this main page in good hands... as I can check...

Well, thanks a lot to binbonbeach, laila and VlaUga for the explanations about different types of CD's to burn. My experience in that is so bad at the moment. Usually I burn on Verbatin, TDK and HP normal CD-R quality. And they sound OK. The problem is durability. So I bought EMTEC 24 CARAT GOLD TECHNOLOGY CD-R and SONY CD-R AUDIO FOR MUSIC.

@All

Sorry... I've been "outside" since friday and I've left this main page in good hands... as I can check...

Well, thanks a lot to binbonbeach, laila and VlaUga for the explanations about different types of CD's to burn. My experience in that is so bad at the moment. Usually I burn on Verbatin, TDK and HP normal CD-R quality. And they sound OK. The problem is durability. So I bought EMTEC 24 CARAT GOLD TECHNOLOGY CD-R and SONY CD-R AUDIO FOR MUSIC. And at the first trial with our famous EAC software... SONY CD went to rubbish directly... Sh*t... I tried to burn the CD at a low speed (8x) and fault... So, I burned the same album (Alan Parsons - I Robot, because of the posibilities to find audio differences easily) into another Sony music CD and into a Gold EMTEC, using CloneCD as musicCD at low speed, and they sound with the same quality to me... my ears don't "see" the difference.
And after reading your comments, as I burn with my PC, it seems normal as the copy is bit to bit. BTW, the difference in how long my Gold or Graphite CD is going to stay in perfect conditions is obvious. Comparing with a normal Verbatin or TDK CD... I think.

@Binbonbeach

My dear friend, I'd not wish to be into your skin. I really thought that you have passed over these problems already. I checked the rar files, the posibility to burn... and it was OK. I never thought that you could have problems only after the track number 10. It seems so rare as a blue banana... :-))) And in three albums...

Please, as you use to say me... take it easy, don't feel desperate...

I'll post Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs MFSL, just to keep the Project alive :-) and we'll wait for you, as the main supplier of our MFSL CDs... Good luck.

@laila

Thanks a lot for being there, for your support and for so big concept of fellowship...

@tarkus

Espero que la broma del microondas no te haya sentado mal... jeje... en medio de todo esto tenemos que echarle un poco de sal a la historia... :-))) Muy bueno lo de la chalupa... :-))) Te mando un PM a ver si te ayuda...

@pete2004

I don't want to remove your nickname from your link at this main page... :-))) I really don't understand it. Seriously. I manage the Project with the highest concept about friendship and fellowship that I can hold. I wish to enhance the work of each member of our TEAM PROJECT where many people is envolved, uploading, posting, adding information, sharing experiences, writting comments, and more. And all that without time to do it... :-) So, please, let me have the honor of write your nickname into our Team Project as a distingished member of it, whom has uploaded a High Quality album in High Quality format. OK????

You have the last word...

To alejx007

Image CCD Alan Parsons " I Robot " is bad?
Can quite be, what it is a mistake at loading at dear laila?

I have thought as to test CCD an image, not writing down it on CDR.
There is program Alcohol 120 %.
In Alcohol 120 % is possible to establish virtual CD - DVD ROM.
To unpack image CCD program Alcohol 120 % on this virtual CD - DVD ROM.
At you on a computer new disk D will appear: or E: or the following letter for available at you on a computer. With this new disk it is possible to make the same actions, as well as with a hard disk.
Further it is possible to listen any program sound player. And to determine quality of separate tracks.
I have just tried it to make.
Besides unpacked image CCD as separate tracks it is possible further to burn any program for burn. For example NERO or Feurio! Or Alcohol 120 %.

Yes. Verbatim Vinil it is good CDR. They well sound.
For the information. Verbatim Pastel apply to long-term archiving databases. These are very reliable CDs - R. The catalogue number for Verbatim Pastel 43417 (50 set) 43418 (100 set).
The majority of special CDs - RA cost dearly not because at them better quality. And the more so reliability of storage. All is simply that concerns to high-quality audio gets in the category fetish.

@laila:
@binbonbeach: Now I have downloaded 5 Albums!! (2 times Parsons, 2 x Cat Stevens and 1 x Police) - and none works how it should.
Before:
Dear binbonbeach: Errors:
Parsons Project: Part 1 and Part 2 are corrupt!
Cat Stevens: Part2 is corrupt!
Police: ALL O.K.!!
En que quedamos laila? El de police esta ok o no?

@alex007: gracias por tu muy amable comentario!

@VlaUga: I refer to the reupload (13.05.2006)Binbonbeach did of
Alan Parsons Projet:Tales Of Mystery
Thank you

@binbonbeach: gracias,Police O.K.!

@VlaUga
What about laser reflection on CD-R?
I have heard that:

Original: 74 - 76 %
Audio CD-R : 68 - 70%
Data CD-R : 64 -66%

CD-R MFSL gold: 99%
Is This Trhuth?

@bimbonbeach: Many thanks for your help.The sound quality its so much clean and clear, that I listen before inluding my old vinyl album,our mp3, In the courth of King Crimson. So I say before,thanks for your tips and helpless. So many people learn about the relations,you what I mean frendly and nice.
Thanks a lot
Regards

To binbonbeach

These are marketing courses. Basically. For a long time spent experiments with sounding different types of CD-R.
Unequivocal correlation of different types of CD-R is not present.
But, certainly, there are very good gold CD-R for record audio. It for example Apogee. But they are rare and expensive also.
In the sound plan quality for a drive cd-player is more important edges of pit.
Different CD-R have different quality of a working layer.
Check quality of reading pit on your computer drive program KBPROBE (BLER C1) can.
Using this program, you can estimate quality of reading pit concrete CD-R on your drive.
But the main thing remains behind your hearing! One CD-R can sound more chilly, others differently. I shall specify - on your CD-player. You certainly know, that different CD-player have different quality of sound. One play a digital dirty. Others sound almost as vinil. As also CD-R have distinction in a sound. I shall specify a smaller level effect. But it is. Distinct. Not at a level - it seemed.
Therefore CD-R need to be chosen by three criteria:
1. Quality of record BLER (C1 and C2)
2. Quality of sounding, is juicy-is dry, is sharply - deafly.
3. Quality of long-term storage.
With the last at modern CD-R very bad....
Bad isTDK, Sony, it is a lot of many firms.
Good it is some marks Verbatim and Fuji.
Modern BASF I, unfortunately, do not know.
Many CD-R for audio are not good, unfortunately. In some years of storage on them there are mistakes C2...

Again I shall repeat.
Program EAC not for record of CD-R. It is the best program for extraction with CDDA. For record audio it is necessary to use NERO, Feurio!, for record of images it is better to use Alcohol 120 %. These are serious programs.
For removal of intervals between tracks in window NERO it is necessary take off a mark "Without pauses between tracks".
Feurio! It the program for record audio CD in general is very serious. It allows to change all possible adjustments audio the project for record.

@VlaUga: thank you very much for your explication!
I am very interested in cd-players sounding almost like vinyl. Coud you recommend some
models please?
Regards

To VlaUga
Very interesting answer.....But, is not laser reflection the explanation why CD-r of different brand can or not play on CD player on car audio? (e.g. difference on CD-R vs CD-RW)... Maybe the emulsion's quality (as well as determine of burn speed)is other reason (we must not forget that original CD is a aluminium sheet between 2 acrilic sheet; CD-R is Emulsion sheet on One Acrilic sheet) And yes I hear a difference between different CD-R brands but logical says: digital is digital and it is only 1 and 0...Are there, on technical details reasons for that? Of course We suppossed all CD-R brands burn on the same machine an drive. Compatibility CDR - CDwriter maybe...Do you know anything about this? Sorry for my question but I want to know it..and knowledge is my other hobby.

@laila
@all
I have the same problem yet, I reuploaded Cat stevens Tea for tillerman file 2 again, I downloaded it and test it(say me file corrupt again) I used winrar tools for repair the file (this file is protect mode) and winrar repaired the file..tested and worked fine again (error is Sector 100844...movement 313D800...313DA00)....but better I deleted this uploading too, and this moment I try to reupload for fourth time... I don't know whats happen....maybe I will change to upload server (not rapidshare) or change file extension (e.g. rar to rrr) and when you download change file extension to rar again (this trick works occasionally)....I hear suggesstions..Thanks

@binbonbeach: raro, verdaderamente raro. Tampoco los imagenes con el CloneCD te salieron bien. Si tienes la posibilidad, haz una prueba en otra computadora. Quizas tu compi tiene una falla extraña, que solo de vez en cuando aparece.
Gracias de todas maneras y ojalá que todo eso se resuelve!

@binbonbeach

I can't believe it. I'm ripping all my MFSL albums using the CloneCD at low speed without problems. Have you tried to download another version or just once again the CloneCD and also reinstal WinRAR. Do it... pls. Sometimes you must start from O... If not, do what Laila says... another computer. No more explanations.... we are in a hurry and we need your other MFSL albums at our CD players....:-)))) Sorry for joking, as I know that you ought to be almost desperado...

But, you are man for that and for many more... we know.. pinche guey... :-)))

@binbonbeach
The main problem is that you don't know where is the problem.
My suggestions are as follows:
1. Less tequilla,
2. Instead of looking for copy protections, changing upload servers, changing extensions of files etc. try to learn more how to rip in perfect way (good website is here: http://users.pandora.be/satcp/index.htm), how to use Rar (or WinRar, believe me adding 1% recovery record is worthless),
3. PLEASE check your crappy VAIO, even if you trust SONY and give us logfile from EAC rip including specifications of your hardware and settings of EAC,
4. Don't forget that at first is perfect rip and what will be done later is much, much, much... less important,
5. If you believe that any lossless compression is changing something, I must respect your beliefs, but please also respect my beliefs that the Earth is flat and supported by elephants,
6. At "normal" forums, like www.hydrogenaudio.org such kind of statements like yours are violations of strict rules of forums (You can do this but you MUST prove it). It seems that here at www.avaxhome.ws you can propagate what you want. This the best way to make from www.avaxhome.ws BARDAK!
7. You have CDs, we have knowledge, maybe together we can change the world!
8. I hope that you are not blockhead and don't take my suggestions personally.

@laila,
My next post will be in Yiddish, what you think about?
Or maybe you prefer Mandarin Chinese? Much more people can use and understand Chinese, hombre!

@alejx007
"I'm ripping all my MFSL albums using the CloneCD at low speed without problems."
You can do this using EAC at highest available speed without any problems as well!

Thanks for all the image files posted here. Im enjoying all the great music and good sound you have given me :-)

Just now when i sat down for writing an comment for first time at two weeks or so, i noticed an new expert. Dont let him make you give up the good work with "i and my friends know so much better". Nothings wrong with the CCD files upped. And the probs with BinBons files are just using 7zip to extract files. Old news...

Thanks again CCD posters :-)

@adamjk: Que bueno que nos explicas lo que tenemos que hacer.
Como bien mencionas, no somos un foro "normal". Si no te gusta,
quedate con tu www.hydrogenaudio.org con sus estrictas reglas.
Yo tambien tengo un "crappy" VAIO y estoy muy contento y vez de
ayudar a binbonbeach con una solucion, escribes puras idiotesses.
Ah, y cuantas MFSL Discos posteaste tu aqui en Avax??? Seguramente
tus elefantes van a traerlos,no?
Quizas fuera mejor que de verdad escribes en mandarin, al menos
no tenemos que aguantar clases de un pinche pendejo (claro, nada personal)

@adamjk
@laila

Hey... be careful. I don't know "hydrogenaudio" rules or "carbonatedsound" or "graphitemusic" rules... It doesn't matter to me. I only know ONE THING....

I am totally tired of fighting, bad atmospheres, and so estrange ways of conversations between people AT LEAST INTO MY POSTS.... OK???

@adamjk
@laila

Hey... be careful. I don't know "hydrogenaudio" rules or "carbonatedsound" or "graphitemusic" rules... It doesn't matter to me. I only know ONE THING....

I am totally tired of fighting, bad atmospheres, and so estrange ways of conversations between people AT LEAST INTO MY POSTS.... OK???

I've posted hundreds of publications and a few of them have been polluted by comments in a "rare" way. No this one. I promise... I've got the power of delete comments without any problem... isn't it Bully???? So, change your minds, and start a new way as friends or whatever you want, but not fighting...

@adamjk

I think that I can understand what you try to say in your comments. No problem in the meaning, perhaps the problem is the way of saying that... it can be misunderstood... OK???

@Laila

I like you, and all what you have done in here. Really, and I think that you know that... I also understand your reaction to adamjk comment more than you can imagine. OK? But I prefer you as before. Una amiga dulce, encantadora, con unas ganas de ayudar a la causa inmensas y siempre con una sonrisa en la cara...
Venga, no nos pongamos de malas.

Konichiwa...Domo arigatoo gozaimasu (in japanese)... Shiii-Shiiii (in mandarin chinese).... Spasibo (in russian).... Hansa hamira (in korean)... Shukran (arab)... Tak Tak... merci... many thanks... dankesen... y muchisimas gracias a los dos por permanecer en este foro....

@binbonbeach and all
A little suggestion.
I think the problem (for Synchronicity and maybe for ...Tillerman) is the .cue file. If you see the .cue file of Synchronicity you can see the beginning of track 11 not correct.
Is possible to change the start timing of single track; open .cue file with txt word or bloc file, change the incorrect start track's time and save it. I hope you understand my "fabulous" english.

Have decided to give -Tea For Tillerman- (2nd upload) a try.

1. extracted the rar: got told about bad sector
2. told WinRar to repair (tools ... repair)
3. WinRar told me about a sector (132204), which was damaged, and did the repair
4. extracted the repaired rar ..... NO ERROR
extracted wav did have exactly the same size as the wav inside the rar
5. installed Feurio
6. told Feurio to make a new project out of the cue file
7. burnt the project
8. listened to my new audio CD: NO ERROR
Eveything worked as it should

The 2nd project i started then was -AtomheartMother-
This is a collection of .shn files, without a cue-file
1. extracted the files, no problem
2. converted the shn to wav, using dbPowerAmp with the needed codec
3. In Feurio i made a new project, using my just created .wav-files.
4. As there is no cue, i told Feurio to make minimal breaks between the tracks.
5. started to burn, first CD was refused, so i took another one.
6. still listening ... GREAT sound.

One suggestion:
could we start a FORUM for this project ??? - so every album could get a topic on its own, were everything could be discussed.

Will continue to report my discoveries while making CDs.

@alejx:I dowload the RT album, and the tracks, 1,2 are missing? Im gonne to download again to check it out.
So I say Thanks again .

@binbonbeach and All
" And yes I hear a difference between different CD-R brands but logical says: digital is digital and it is only 1 and 0... Are there, on technical details reasons for that? "

You set very serious questions. I am afraid, that with my knowledge of English I cannot convincingly answer you... If you could talk in Russian!
Therefore I ask you to trust me:). Taking into account that I not usual Russian "bear". During Soviet times I was the "secret" nuclear physicist. It appears, in audio, as well as at forward edge of a science there are many things which are not explained yet.....! I, with my scientific experience, understand influence audio waves as high-frequency continuation of gravitational waves which comprises some the information, yet not understood by people. But this information influences people at a subconscious level. About as:)! But people recognize presence of the sixth feeling? Presence of intuition?

But distinctions between CDR and CDRW are not explained. In them the various principle is incorporated, therefore not all old disk drives are able to read CDRW. But it does not concern to a sound!
For an estimation of quality of a sound of CD-R it is necessary to understand some things.
The first. Your writing drive has the especial characteristic signature of sound. On other drives the sound can be perceived by another.
The second. This very thin. Not accessible to hearing of many (we differ from each other, whether not so?). On different CD - player written down by you the CD-R will have a different sound.
The third. Therefore it is important, as it is accepted in a serious science, to exclude all errors which can be brought in an initial material.
I have in view of an error which admit as all also as all mechanisms of errors are clear.
And so, the scientific fact, that at extraction audio with CDDA (audio a compact disc) has the least errors EAC. Especially it is free soft. Therefore what maximum to exclude influence on quality of a sound operation of extraction audio with CDDA, it is necessary to use only adjusted EAC. Under your drive. I.e. in EAC value offset for reading your drive should be established.
It can be made easily in assembly EAC, on which I published the link in this discussion.
To write down CD-R in EAC it is not necessary! Only to take audio from CDDA.
I now dig with ASPi for EAC. I try to adjust and estimate quality burn. If it will turn out, I shall add assembly EAC for to burn. And then it will be possible to take into account offset for to burn. I.e. the copy will be identical completely. 1:1.
Except for quality burn on your drive of borders pit.

For an estimation of quality burn on different CD R and different participants of project AVAX-MFSL, look screenshot quality checks burn album King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King Uploaded by Alejx007 (CloneCD img).
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/41/test3az.jpg

@laila

Interesting question. I shall speak opposite opinion available now:)
Tried various CD0player. Old, new. Dear, cheap. Absolutely expensive. Audiophile.
Made itself converter digit-analog for CDDA.
Under the most advanced concepts.
On various audiophile chips DAC.
ANALOG DEVICES AD1862NJ
Burn Brown PCM1704K
NPS SM5865
.....
Has stopped for itself on Philips TDA1540D.
YES! It very much old! This old! These are 14 bits! But it sounds IN THE BEST WAY! It vinil! There is no digital a dirt! Extremely highly resolving! Amazing naturalness!
Certainly this my opinion.

@VlaUga,
It seems that according to my country's proverbs you and me are casting pearls before swine.
Don't expect to much. Unfortunately Russian forum is ruled by ...

@laila,
Sorry, as I have mentioned, I can only understand a few languages, so please put your post in something more common than Spanish (even if you believe that Spanish "rulez").
There are a lot sites that can translate your post free of charge.

@ alejx007: tienes toda la razón con tu comentario, me deje llevar por mis emociones. Sabes, lo que menos aguanto es si alguien insulta una persona de muy buena voluntad como binbonbeach, aparte del estilo nazi en que formulaba su comentario. En su ultimo post a VlaUga ya nos declaro a todos "swines". - ¡Que fina persona!
Ya regreso mi sonrisa, no vale la pena dedicar ni un segundo a una persona así y voy a tratar de "ni ignorarlo", auque uno no debe siempre callarse.

@ VlaUga: I appreciate very much your explications and thank you for your opinion and advice. Every day I learn more.


@ adamjk: the only "things" that "rulez" in AvaxHome are decency, courtesy, respect and gratefulness.
So you know a lot of sites that can translate my post free of charge, you can do it yourself, if you are interested.

@adamjk

О господи то.. Ариец штоля из обсморкнутого мухосранска выполз на еще незаплеванную территорию? Так веди себя как человек, не позорь русских. Ты сначала хотя бы одну вещь подобного уровня выложи. А то кто свинья тебе еще доказывать надо ;)

@All

Forgive, at us now prison culture in a fashion...

@VlaUga
Thanks, very interesting point of view.
@All
I understand and I hear that EAC soft is better to rip audio disc....When I choosed Clonecd soft for make a image from audio cd, I did that for easy-use and user-friendly interfaz, I writed this before. EAC is very good but is more complicated to configure, many people don't have the knowledge for use it correctly and many EAC users write ever about to convert the image to lossless format. I say you one more time: I'm not a audio tech or pc fan or to copy an audio cd fan. I prefer buy the original cd (when I can find it, of course). I am music lover. I belive in my ears. The numbers are cold but in real world many things change (the specs are not all). I think about average people here, I am happy if I will can introduce several people in audiophile world. When I saw VgaUga explanations about EAC I maked a EAC image and it sounded very good, for the other hand I understand (thanks Vga Uga) I don't need convert this image WAV files in Lossless files....Why? Because I want you have a physical cd, I don't need to store this image on my hardisk (of course NEVER I will hear on PC these MFSL cds) and if I make a EAC image with WAV files because this is compatible with other burn software and more easy to burn for the average people.... If somebody want to convert a lossless format.. That's ok... but Make yourself. If I believe or not in lossless format is irrelevant here because this is not our main objective. I'm not EAC's master or guru, I am starting to use EAC yet.... Alejx and I talked about if we continue to post with clonecd image or change to EAC image (WAV), but We are not take a decision yet. Personally I don't need to post anything here....We don't forget that this is not a job. Me and several people waste many hours of hard work for this and we are doing it for the people and love to the music. And we hope, maybe, only a few words: Thanks for sharing!!
For the other hand Yes!! If you have the discs you have the power!! ;)) (it's a joke) In fact If you have the discs you can choose which soft you use to rip them and how, when and where you post them, It's your right. Am I clear in this point? What can I do? Choose..If I'm not agreement I don't download it...Finish....

My corrupted problem with rar files are not for bad use to winrar soft (I use it many time ago), because all rar files work fine in my hard disk, I test them ever. The problem is a error of transmission between My PC, my DSL provider and Reapidshare server, and this fault is real and know. Prove this I uploaded a Cat Stevens: Tea for tillerman part 2 five times on rapidshare and downloaded after, All times I have a corrupted file, all went repaired with winrar repair tool and work fine...I uploaded the same file to megaupload (one time) and I downloaded in perfect state, No corrupted file!

@Binbonbeach

Very interesting... but once you have passed over your problem... start to post all your MFSL. I'm getting tired of posting alone. :-))

You and me know what we have to do. Just post... Forget lossless, EAC, Fuerio, and everything. OK?

It's has been really interesting, and very helpful for the future all the knowledgments shared by our friends. I need them just to learn how to improve my posts and quality.

From here I say once again THANKS for everything to all of yourselves. But...

... start to post... Now... that's all I call music... The Project has several lines... Forum, debate, fun, jokes, sharing and increasing knowledgement, but the most important is THE MUSIC.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's my opinion.... :-)

I have no problems with any of yourselves uploading MFSL in anykind of format... Really. The most important in this Project (as in life) is to participate and to collect the maximum amount of MFSL albums as possible, before they disapear.

@alejx007
Sorry, man.
You're right, The must important in this project is the MFSL albums...Please read MP. Thanks for patience to us.

Just a "little" request:


Sting - The Dream of the Blue Turtles [MFSL Ultradisc]
U2 - War [MFSL Original Master Recording]
Steve Winwood - Arc of a Diver [MFSL]
Nirvana - Nevermind [MFSL Gold CD]
Nirvana - In Utero [MFSL Gold CD]
Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [MFSL]
Don Henley - Building the Perfect Beast [MFSL Gold CD]
Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair [MFSL Gold CD]
Toto - IV [MFSL Gold CD]
John Lennon - Imagine [MFSL Ultradisc]

@binbonbeach
Please where are correct files of Tea For Tillerman ??

@bono66
Sorry I forgot post the link:
Part 1 and 3 correct (laila says me):
http://rapidshare.de/files/20284727/CS_TT.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/20247747/CS_TT.part3.rar.html
Part 2 new link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X4EI4YWI

@binbonbeach

Thank you so much, for this and next post.

@alejx007 and All
" I have no problems with any of yourselves uploading MFSL in anykind of format... Really. The most important in this Project (as in life) is to participate and to collect the maximum amount of MFSL albums as possible, before they disapear. "

Very correctly speak.
As well as binbonbeach very correctly speaks - I am solidary with him. It is impossible to listen to high-quality music through a computer. In this case you will lose much.
But you cannot understand my position. I not inadequate fan EAC. I the music fan, meloman and audiophile.
I very much appreciate qualitative records of great music of the seventieth years. I have usual license company magazines. But these editions, to my regret, have bad quality of a sound.
MFSL it is almost unique company to which managed to publish records of the seventieth years in magnificent quality.
Unfortunately, to me are inaccessible MFSL. I can have them only from you.
You share with me yours MFSL with pleasure. Correctly I understand?
What for you search for yourselves for editions MFSL?
I think, too for that, as I. What to take pleasure in maximum qualitative sound of favorite music. How you consider, correctly I understand your aspirations?
And you at home listen MFSL on very good equipment. Correctly?

But me very much upsets, when you give these magnificent records to me through the device for scoring parties.

I understand principles digital audio, system of representation digital audio in a computer. Making a start from this understanding, I try to explain as to keep quality of records MFSL when you want to give with pleasure to me them.
What to me to not listen to these records through yours "the device for scoring parties".
And to listen to them is exact the same as you do it at home.
The system of representation digital audio CDDA is distinct from system of representation of figures CDROM.
If on disk CDROM there will be an ineradicable mistake figures will be completely disabled!
If on a disk of digital audio CDDA there will be an ineradicable mistake instead of this mistake the program will draw these data. This opportunity of "detour" of ineradicable mistakes is incorporated in format CDDA (REDBOOK).
Yes, quality of a sound will suffer, but the disk does not need to be thrown out!
This your right to like "the device for scoring parties" CloneCD. But I very much ask you before taking audio given by CD Clone, test CD MFSL in program EAC. For this purpose in specialized program EAC for qualitative extraction audio CDDA it is necessary to allocate all tracks on a disk and to press function key F8.
Further to look the report. And to make the decision. Yes, this superfluous movement. But quality never happens cheap and accessible!
And so, there, where on an ineradicable mistake of reading by your drive (I hypertrophy - the mote has got) EAC will return to this mistake and will try to read it, other unspecialized program ITSELF will draw these readout which it could not count!
I shall continue, will badly draw, at all as this music in the original played. What is people would not be indignant, that it is impossible to listen to their CD more and necessary to buy new CD. What for to the usual student high quality? It is spoken with statistics.
As this unspecialized program will draw defective readout?
Precisely as will draw, as they are drawn with bad CD - player with cheap chip for processing CDDA.
But you for yourselves try to buy good CD player?
Understand, what cheap CD - player will have "cheap" sound?

You understand. Any computer program, EAC, CloneCD, NERO, Alcohol 120 % equally represent digital Audio. They represent it in format WAV(PCM). In any other format. These different programs simply on miscellaneous transfer sequence of songs to CD. It is unimportant. Let CCD, let IMG, let ISO. All the same, digital audio in them it is submitted in format WAV.
IMG, CCD.... etc it only an external environment. Inside WAV (PCM.) * (look a footnote)
Further. About a format lossless audio. It too most, it is identical, as format RAR, ZIP.
When you compress CCD, IMG, WAV files in format RAR or ZIP. And then decompression them for burn on CDR. You know, what musical quality will not suffer?
Correctly, from these actions above files WAV (CCD, IMG, ISO) musical quality will not suffer.
But format RAR or ZIP very badly compresses musical files.
Therefore the sound recording industry in the ninetieth years had been developed special programs for compression of musical files.
These are formats APE, WM9, WAVPACK, FLAC.... etc.
These formats were initially developed only for compression. I.e. for the same, as ZIP, ARJ.
On quality of a sound of musical files WAV when you compress and then decompression these special programs for compression audio lost-free information, this intermediate process does not influence! Just as process compression - decompression in format RAR does not influence.
Yes, correctly. Now there are computer programs with which help it is possible to listen lossless to formats, not decompression them preliminary in WAV. I.e. the powerful computer (it is better that it would be realized is hardware, as for example in automobiles VOLVO), "hurriedly" transforms these files to format WAV. Yes, it agree. Thus musical quality is lost. Not everything, but is people with thin musical ear which hear this degradation.

Once again.
I correctly understand you, you do not prefer to listen to favorite music of a house on combines for scoring parties? Especially such qualitative how suggests MFSL? And you are glad to give quality MFSL to us? So give to us quality MFSL, instead of a kitchen radio receiver. And we with gratitude shall accept quality MFSL carefully handed by you!
I ask to forgive for hypertrophied submission.

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* (For the information) WAV represents hardware format PCM. With which all sound recording studios operate.

@VgaUga
Sorry for my questions (It's very difficult I meet a people with your experience int this audio world) and thanks for your words....I see we are in the same frecuency. Regards.

@alejx007
@all

http://avaxhome.ws/music/tales_of_mystery_mfsl_repost.html
THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT: TALES OF MYSTERY AND IMAGINATION EDGAR ALLAN POE (FIXED)
EXACT AUDIO COPY IMAGE (WAV+CUE)
LINKS TESTED (17/05/2006)

DOWNLOAD FILEFACTORY LINKS FULL RANGE (You need FEURIO,NERO, Alcohol, EAC to burn image to music CD; load CUE file):

http://www.filefactory.com/?7ba745 Download APP_T Part 1 (95.3 MB) http://www.filefactory.com/?b8868c Download APP_T Part 2 (95.3 MB) http://www.filefactory.com/?8e96dd Download APP_T Part 3 (62.8 MB)

Password (if this is require): www.AvaxHome.ru

@alejx007
@all

http://avaxhome.ws/music/tales_of_mystery_mfsl_repost.html
THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT: TALES OF MYSTERY AND IMAGINATION EDGAR ALLAN POE (FIXED)
EXACT AUDIO COPY IMAGE (WAV+CUE)
LINKS TESTED (17/05/2006)

DOWNLOAD FILEFACTORY LINKS FULL RANGE (You need FEURIO,NERO, Alcohol, EAC to burn image to music CD; load CUE file):

http://www.filefactory.com/?7ba745 Download APP_T Part 1 (95.3 MB)
http://www.filefactory.com/?b8868c Download APP_T Part 2 (95.3 MB)
http://www.filefactory.com/?8e96dd Download APP_T Part 3 (62.8 MB)

Password (if this is require): www.AvaxHome.ru

Part 1 (95.3 MB): http://www.filefactory.com/?7ba745
Part 2 (95.3 MB): http://www.filefactory.com/?b8868c
Part 3 (62.8 MB): http://www.filefactory.com/?8e96dd

Password (if this is require): www.AvaxHome.ru

@VlaUga

OK, I understand. And I agree. If I want to share the highest quality copies of my originals, specially MFSL, I have to do it using the highest quality software.

But, I have a problem of time. I've downloaded the last version of EAC, I've installed it. I've tried it, with no time to read all the specifications about how to configure it to make a correct copy of my CDs. So, I've throught away two CD-R SONY GRAPHITE special for audio... rubbish. I need time (that I haven't) to learn about how to configure the EAC just to put a CD inside my driver, make click on something and get all in a few seconds. CUE, Log and the rest included.

After I read that last version of EAC is not correct. So, where do I get an old version?. Going to emule or edonkey and downloading it, of course. But no time to do it, I promise.

So, I only have CloneCD to make click and in just 20-30 secs. getting a copy in "NO kitchen radio receiver QUALITY" of my original CD. I've tried them in my HIFI equipment and they sound wonderfully.

I also bought a digital professional audio sound card PCI for my PC connected through optical cable to my amplifier, and with Traktor DJ Studio 3 software or many other professional player software I've got acceptables quality sounds and listenings of my PC music directly to my HIFI speakers. I can feel perfectly differences between MP3 and APE, FLAC, OGG, etc. Obviously, it's not the same than a standard or integrated audio sound card.

Well, I'll try. I promise. Just for you. But, a request. Can you upload the best copy of EAC you can offer to us to RS or other? Can you give me some quickly lesson about how to configure EAC just to make a image file of my MFSL CDs in just a few minutes? No entering in long explanations about technical details. Just click in here, this number in there, doble click overthere. And done. Only a "EAC for Dummies"... :-)

Remember... Team Project :-)))

@binbonbeach

Thanks a lot for your giant effort. I'll try the files tomorrow, and I'll tell you.

@binbonbeach: thank you for your new uploads! ALL working perfect!

@VlaUga: alejx007 had a very good idea! I am interested in an
"EAC for Dummies" and the good version of EAC too!
My best regards

@alejx007

“I've downloaded the last version of EAC, I've installed it. I've tried it, with no time to read all the specifications about how to configure it to make a correct copy of my CDs. So, I've throught away two CD-R SONY GRAPHITE special for audio... rubbish. I need time (that I haven't) to learn about how to configure the EAC just to put a CD inside my driver, make click on something and get all in a few seconds. CUE, Log and the rest included.

After I read that last version of EAC is not correct. So, where do I get an old version?. Going to emule or edonkey and downloading it, of course. But no time to do it, I promise.”

It is not necessary to search as to adjust EAC.
It is not necessary download last version.
In this discussion specially for this project I have specially made assembly EAC.
With necessary adjustments{options}. And with a short explanation as it to use.
I repeat again this my message:

“ Here the test version of my new assembly normal EAC for extraction audio CD in quality EAC+CUE.

http://rapidshare.de/files/20305085/Assembly_EAC_by_VlaUga.rar.html

Installation and the description too inside. With automatic adjustment OFFSET of your drive.
Yes, this assembly EAC c automatic adjustment {option} OFFSET of your drive.
If it is in a database OFFSET it will be determined automatically. You will need to press "reconfigure" (an exact spelling I do not remember). And if your drive is not present in a database, in the applied description to assembly EAC is told how automatically to adjust offset your drive.
The description while short, but I think, already quite clear.
Assembly completely efficient for qualitative ripper audio CD.
Test - because I hurried up and have not completely checked up all minor functions."

If you repeat actions on installation to this assembly as is told in the short description, EAC at once will be ready to work.
If you for extraction audio will make CD how is told in the short description enclosed in this assembly, at you ready files APE+CUE+LOG will turn out. Which need to be compressed RAR, using functions of splitting into parts and additions of the information for restoration of files (3 %) further.
All is very very simple!
Ask, if there will be questions on installation of this my assembly EAC. I shall remind - in assembly the "correct" version is used.

@alejx007
Yes, you only download her assambly version and follow the VgaUga intructions in word file...With right discs EAC configured me my cd read drive with offset value in +6...all works...
e.g. EAC extraction logfile from 17. May 2006, 21:24 for CD
Moody Blues / In Search Of The Lost Chord
Used drive : MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8588 Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename E:MOBILE FIDELITY CDSThe Moody Blues_In search of the lost chordMoody Blues - In Search Of The Lost Chord.wav

Peak level 99.9 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC 8101C5F5
Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report

@VgaUga
thanks again for share your knowledge with us..

sorry:
Yes, you only download HIS assambly version and follow the VgaUga intructions in word file...SORRY AGAIN

@binbonbeach

"thanks again for share your knowledge with us.."

What apologies????

It to all of you thank for so fine project!!!!

Whether is not present at whom MFSL Queen " The game ", 10CC and E.L.O.?
Would be very grateful!

@alejx007: The assembly I mentioned does exactly the same as VlaUga´s, except it doesn´t have the "TOC" inside. I´ve explained before, once your running anydvd or sim. program in the background there usually no need for the older version. But you may use any version, of course.

In any case once you installed eac and the basic drive (burner) is done (tab: drive options or press F10), you´ll need the correct "read-offset" for your drive. You can either use the "accuraterip.dll" included in both posted versions O R go to accuratetip.com and look for your burners read-offset listed. Enter it in the approp. tab (F10 or drive options, tab offset/speed)and hopefully all will be fine. When you choose to let accuraterip determine you read-offset, it may require three (3) so-called "key-discs" to configure your burner - so be patient, if you don´t find one of those keydiscs right away.

PS: It was all said in my post further up...but you "kids" don´t read !
PSS: I´ve told you before: A gold cd alone doesn´t make a good burn. It takes the material (cd), the burner´s hardware & firmware, the burn software, etc. to achieve the best possible result. Some burners will produce only "coasters" with certain cd´s. Sony is definitely NOT one of the best burners you can have. I´ll recommend as a consumer equipment either "PLEXTOR" (in general) or if too expansive NEC (like 3540A). Hop over to cdrfreaks for a list of reviews. A*G*A*I*N all was previously stated :)

An overview & links to guide(s) guide
Another brief EAC guide (english)

Link to EAC-bundle (site in german)
Link to VlaUga-bundle

plus many other sources...just google and READ !

Coming soon: John Cougar Mellencamp - Lonesome Jubilee MFSL

Traffic - Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys MFSL should be here in a few days

@VlaUga

Well, I'm sick and tired...:-) No way to do it correctly. Your instructions are correctly understood and done. But:

PROBLEMS:

- I only install new software at unit D:. As C: is only for Operating System in my PC (I don't like to use it for any kind of software). But as SECOND-appEAC_Profile.exe goes directly to C/Archivos de Programa/Exact Audio Copy folder, I decided to install EAC there....

- I found the "CUE_APE_High" profile and I loaded it.

- Neither my original Supertramp Breakfast in America, nor Alan Parsons I Robot (no MFSL), nor my new Queen A day at the races MFSL, could be accepted for accuraterip adjustments...I tried with Al Stewart The Year Of The Cat, and it worked OK... so I decided to rip it following AccurateRip propositions...

- IT DOESN'T WORK. Errors at the Extracting Audio Data process at 4.4%, Copy Selected Range, Reading Selected Range, REad error, sync error. I saw that the MAC.exe for ape files was directioned to a wrong folder (C:/Program Files/Exact Audio Copy/Mac.exe) as in spanish PCs the installations go directly to C:/Archivos de Programa/Exact..., so I changed the Compression Options at main menu...

- SAME PROBLEM...

Any suggestion...??

@alejx007: I´ve told you, this is NOT your avg. 2clicks-all-done proggy 0:). Forget at first about the profiles. You can create your own/adjust later.

1. First is the program correctly installed ?
2. Did you setup your drive correctly by answering the question during install or later using F10 ?
3. Did you find your drive listed at accurate site ? Did you write the info onto the approp. tab ?

Here`s another quality rip ;-), so you guys & gals get bored in the meantime :0.

The Doors - (2003) Legacy: The Absolute Best [2003 HDCD Remaster]

2 CD´s plus Covers

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3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
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12
13

Cheers

@alejx007

This problem is solved. You tell to me in what folder you want to establish EAC.
Specify an exact way D:...EAC. I shall alter specially under you.
Yes, it is not necessary anything in addition download to my assembly.
All already is present at it.
And adjusted lossless, and accurateRIP and even mp3 and OGG.

Later I shall make more detailed description (but short!), in which I shall tell how as much as possible to use my assembly EAC.
I shall repeat, that in this version of assembly already all is completely included.
Only very short description how qualitatively to take audio CD.

Tell to me, what drive at you! I shall find out what from it offset and I shall specially adjust EAC for you.
You will need to unpack, answer only questions at installation EAC. And then to please us your remarkable MFSL!

@Pete2004

Wait. I don't know why, my Al Stewart "The year of the cat", passed the accuraterip test, but I couldn't rip it.

In this moment I'm trying with Nirvana - Nevermind MFSL, and ... OK... NO PROBLEM... !!!! Already done...

So, I'll post it...

BTW, I've created an ape file, with its ape.cue file, already ready to be burned with Nero (i.e.). I hope it shall be OK.

Well, well...it seems you rushing things a bit.

Again: Have you properly configured your drive thru F10. Please hit F10 and go to first tab "Extraction Method". Once there insert a original cd, click the radio button "Secure Rip" and press "Detect Read Features". Once this is finished click "yes" or add the info.

@VlaUga

OK, thanks a lot. The route is D:Exact Audio Copy. Just this...

I hereby, copy the log file from the Nirvana rip:

EAC extraction logfile from 18. May 2006, 23:59 for CD
Nirvana / Nevermind - Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab

Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-4120B Adapter: 0 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, NO disable cache
Combined read/write offset correction : 0
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : D:Monkey's AudioMAC.exe (Monkey's Audio Lossless Encoder)
High Lossless Compression

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface


Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename F:Pre uploadsNirvana - Nevermind.wav

Peak level 98.4 %
Range quality 99.9 %
CRC B5F12588
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

------------------------------------------------------------

As you can see, I've changed two things from your assembly EAC:

Route for MAC.exe: Browsing directly to my Monkeys Audio folder.
Deleting Wav file at finish of ripping.
Drive read command: Read Command MMC1 at Drive options.

Questions:

- Detecting accuracy configuration: "inaccurate"?? "accurate"?? or "secure"??
- Can I use my LAME codec ??? just to create MP3 at 320 kbps... (no MFSL of course). I ask it because I understood in your Assembly EAC by VlaUga.doc "The offer to establish mp3 codec to reject!" as to forget the LAME option... if yes.. Why???

@Pete2004

I'm silly but not until this limits :-)) Of course, I've configured my drivers using the automatic detection at installation moment, and later three more times (with f10 and using the tool bar), just to try to solve my problem.

But as you can see... I had to do it by my own, finding the mac.exe file in other place and using in Drive Options, the "Autodetect read command now" radio button.

I still wondering why my Al Stewart CD was good for AccurateRip configuration, but no good to be ripped...???

In order to give you an answer I first need to get the whole picture of your setup. On the "extraction method" tab what does it say ? On the "drive" tab what does it say ? On the "offset/speed" tab what does it say ? What firmware are you using on your LG ?

PS: According to your "eac"-report above your read offset is not configured.

@Pete2004

Well, here you have. Look and tell me...

http://rapidshare.de/files/20810841/Doc1.rar

In any case, I reserve my personal opinion yet. As same as Binbonbeach, Serial and many others, I still trust in image files... So I'll burn two CD-Rs with the ape.cue file using Nero, I'll burn another one using an img file done with CCD, and I'll listen to the three ones at my HIFI equipment with my digital headphones. Same album, same song, without touching the amplifier nor the equalizer.

And I'll tell you later. If I don't feel a difference... I'll carry on using CloneCD. Excepting that any of yourselves (or my own ears) can probe that all this work is for something.

I've been last Friday at a Women Model Event in my country, and the sound engineer was a friend of mine. So I could stay for 1,5 hours with thousands of watts of sound only for my own and my ears, doing all kind of things with my MFSL and burned records... and... the CDs burned with CloneCd via Internet and Nero sound wonderfully. I have "serial" doubts that another CD ripped with EAC and burned from an APE file could even sound better. At least better enough for activating my sound band and wake up more emotions that my traditional way with CDD

Nothing is finished yet...

Gap detection: change to "secure". Choose the fastest of the 3 (A,B,C)
Write offset: If you don´t use Eac, then no need to worry.

F9 - Eac Options: "Extaction" tab => "Error recovery quality" set to high

All others shown in your doc seem to be fine. Well with EAC it´s not just the sound, it´s the accuracy and all parts included due to the proper offsets. Ape doesn´t improve the sound, it´s just for archiving etc. Just like VlaUga says.

What headphones are you using (curious)?

@pete2004: many thanks for "The Doors"! - How long took it for you too understand all that? I read the manuals of EAC and Feurio! (till now I cannot burn, because my burner is not mentioned and I do not know which driver to take) and it seems it will take months for me! - Are there the same problems to burn a perfect CD? -adjusting burner etc., is there a quality difference between nero,alcohol,ashampoo etc.?

@alejx007: ya se porque pareces tan nervioso, esas 1,5 horas no eran para tus oidos, eran para tus ojos,-espero que lo disfrutaste!

@laila: It takes a while. Yes and no, it depends a lot on the material you can get, how your burner takes it and so on. See VlaUga´s results with the pastel cds. Those results are hard to achieve (few c1 errors, no c2 errors!

What drive do you have ?

@pete2004: I have a Sony DVD RW DW-D22A. Feurio recognized it when I did the install but now if I want to burn, it does not recognize the burner,asks me for the driver (scasi3 or panasonic or sony etc. but none seems to be correct) - therefore my question about quality between nero, alcohol etc., they simply burn. I also did the test and got a result too good to believen no errors! Here it is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/20816365/Feurio.doc.html
Best regards

@VlaUga

I find a problem with EAC 0.95b3 when I want to make a image to my hard disk of the Police- Synchronicity MFSL disc. Not happened nothing, no window pop up for store the image on my hard disk, only a little flicker....I tried to make image to lossless format or Mp3, but not happened yet. I Tried with other MFSL and all work fine (I have a anyDVD, I closed this program but all was same).....Then I update EAC to last version EAC 0.95b4 and all works fine... ok , Reinstall version EAC 0.95b3 and I had the same problem.... now I have EAC 0.95b4 version and all work. What do you think about this? Maybe It is only for my specif drive...

@Pete2004

I have two headphones. Sennheiser PX200 (portables), and Sennheiser HD-650 (for normal use). For me they are great, both of them. Very different quality of sound respect to any other I've tried before. I recommend specially PX200 for the size and cost. HD-650 too expensive but unbelievable sound....

A question, I'll try to rip again the same CD, but using .img option. No ape or lossless format. With EAC of course, and I'll tell you and the forum how it works...

@laila: I´m sure that Feurio burns more accurately than many other burn softwares, just due to the fact it is specially designed around that fashion. Now if it comes to ease of use, I have found "Feurio" overwhelming. But again the same happens with EAC. On your system you maybe have a driver conflict and feurio gets confused. This happens if you have different "rip" software installed, each using their *.dll/aspi version. Maybe it´s just a matter of configurating feurio. If you have a second windooze partition w/o (m)any other rip software installed, try to check out if the same happens. Even better would be if you have a VMWare testing environment avail..

If you have a question in regard to feurio you better ask VlaUga, it´s his "baby". The test you´ve sent is only about the drives capabilites. It states nothing about any burn results. For that either use Nero´s "CD-DVD Speed" tool (if it works w/ the burner), KProbe2 (works only on Lite-On burners) or (here comes the Plextor adavantage) use Plextor tools included with some Plextor burners. Therefore I suggest, that you burn a few samples with your fav. proggy (nero, alcohol, burrrn, eac, etc), then check the burn quality and see for yourself. The goal are VlaUga´s results. Do the same with diff. cd material (diff. brand, kind). VlaUga talks neatly about it.

Under EAC the read offset should be +12 as reported by 12 ppl.. Write offset can be configured with the EAC test cd.

@alejx007: Thanks for headphone infos. I´ll keep ´em on my mind.
@all: One reminder - EAC does N O T circumvent any cd protection schemes. For that you´ll need other software. Also pls. remember, that burners have limited "copy" capabilities due to hardware/firmware limitations, meaning on audio-cd maybe copied on one but not the other unit.

@pete2004

I forgot to say you thanks for The Doors album... Great...

I have uploaded the Nirvana - Nevermind MFSL ape files to RS, but I'll not post them. I'm ripping in .wav format using img option at EAC and I'll compare the three of them listening carefully at my HIFI equipment. So, I'll upload the one that will offer me the highest quality sound.

To alejx007


Forgive, I can answer only on Monday. The days off it is occupied.
Characteristics of your drive LG GSA-4120B for adjustment EAC:

Caching NO

Accurate Stream YES

C2 Error Info YES

Sample offset for read +667 (2668 bytes)

Cache buffer 2MB

Read CD text YES

Read subchannel Data YES

Read LeadIn NO

Rad LeadOut NO

----------------------------

With such in parameters I shall "prepare" you EAC.
Accommodation D:EAC specify once again.
Original language is necessary Spanish or English?
Into assembly will enter codec LAME 3.93 MMX (at it better quality of a sound). What bitrate you want?
Into assembly will enter codec MAC3.99 (it more stably 4.01). Quality of compression E-HIGH.

Please correct these initial data!

P.S. You have written, what quality of extraction of CD program EAC is 99.9 % in your case? Range quality 99.9 %?
It only confirms, that I spoke!
See, mistakes of reading on MFSL CD - DA are available!
The usual program simply interpolates these mistakes as еq will take in head!
EAC will lower speed and WILL READ bad sectors! In result " Copy OK No errors occured "!

@alejx007

Five cents more:)

In headphones it is impossible to listen to quality of sounding!!!!

In headphones you will not hear time "accuracy" of music.

In headphones you will not hear air around of tools and the singer. You will not hear volume. Depth of a picture. Cannot divide the guitarist and the drummer!

In any headphones. Even such good as Senh650!

"I forgot to say you thanks for The Doors album... Great...

I have uploaded the Nirvana - Nevermind MFSL ape files to RS, but I'll not post them. I'm ripping in .wav format using img option at EAC and I'll compare the three of them listening carefully at my HIFI equipment. So, I'll upload the one that will offer me the highest quality sound."

Still.:)

You understand, that APE, FLAC and others lossless is only containers for transfer WAV!!
It is impossible to compare quality of sound WAV and APE, using for this purpose in quality of a player a computer!!!

It is necessary to compare quality original WAV and quality WAV which you have received after compression - releases same original WAV/

I assure you, on the same player it will be IDENTICAL!

Therefore for a network it is necessary to use APE! More rationally! Quality WAV after release APE is identical with initial WAV.

In general it is impossible to listen to qualitative music on a computer. You will not hear also half of that fine quality that is on MFSL!

But if listen on a computer, then download to my assembly FOOBAR. ON it though as that still is possible to listen to qualitative music. At the same time it is able to convert between all audioформатами compression, is absolute between all:)
And also it is able rip audio CD (not so perfectly, as EAC...).
Most better special programs work with TEG.
Has 1/2 octava equalizer.
Is able to bypass nucleus Windows which spoils a sound.
Completely processes a database of the musical files on your computer.
Is able burn CDR - RW
Still is able all more so much - as speak - " do not live so much ":)

@binbonbeach

I shall think.
I did not collide yet with such case.
Very important - precisely observe my instruction how to use EAC for extraction audio CD at image. Any function keys F..!!!
Only through the menu!
In what folder you have established EAC?
I made by default C:Program FilesExact Aud..........
If at you another folder, such it is possible.
Hardly put in versions EAC.
Because b4 differs from b3 only that the author has worsened TOC! More any changes was not.

@VlaUga
I followed your intruction step by step, only difference I use CUE/WAV to make image disc. But I repeat only when I want to make a image to my hard disk of the Police- Synchronicity MFSL disc. Not happened nothing, no window pop up for store the image on my hard disk, only a little flicker....I tried to make image to lossless format or Mp3, but not happened yet (Throug the menu). IF I Try with other MFSL, all work fine again.....Then I update EAC to last version EAC 0.95b4 and all works fine... ok , Reinstall version EAC 0.95b3 and I had the same problem with Police Disc... now I have EAC 0.95b4 version and all work fine.
EAC: C:Archivos de programaExact Audio Copy but I saw that your second-appEAC_Profile.exe install it in C:Program FilesEAC, and I rebuilded you rar.exe file and now it install on correct folder (all your original files and folders are inside) (I can now convert on EAC to APE, Ogg, FLAC, Shorten, Lame, AAC, etc).
"Because b4 differs from b3 only that the author has worsened TOC! More any changes was not." I understand this but...???
Maybe I will copy the disc and I will try to see if with the copy happen again..

Hi at all,
Thanks for starting this post,a great and inspired idea.
Also many thanks to VlaUga,Pete2004 and binbonbeach for the technical discussion,it's true i heard eac was the best audio cd ripping app,I've read this elsewhere and now again i read it here.So I downloaded and tried it,thanks for the satc link (http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm)it was very usefull plus the contact is in my proper language.
I'm also very sorry to read idiotic and non relevant comments on the use of language.Let's just be greatful that people take their time to post their work and knowledge,with the least of goodwill all post were pretty understandable,thanks all of you for that!!
As I "greatfully" took from your efforts I will in return try to get my hands on some MFSL recordings and rip (eac with Monkey audio compression--rarred) and post them.One thing:I don't own a scanner so I won't be able to post the covers,is that a problem you guys can solve?
Also how bout this approach:as for the ccd images,I burnt them with nero and then ripped them with eac,could this improve the quality?
Well just my two cents and the need to say thanks to you all...
Regards,
D.:D

@daxta
Thanks and Wellcome...Maybe we can help you on your covers problem (Between Alejx and I have 47 MFSl cd more or less and more gold discs special edition), but you try to find the covers on the web (e.g. google)..The really important is that you post your MFSL discs here.
And NO, The quality of the first post discs on ccd files don't change if you want to rip again with EAC....Only if you use EAC to rip from original MFSL CD....Maybe, but slowly (in the end) I will reupload ccd MFSL albums on EAC rip (CUE/WAV).....

@VgeUga
@Pete2004
I have a question....Is really important to include and upload the log file of the EAC rip? Why? Thanks for your answer.

@binbonbeach
It because of that at you folder another, not such as in English version Windows:)

I can make only under the English letters. Let's agree, that folder for audio programs will be concrete for everything, for example C:MYLOVEAUDIO :)

For extraction WAV+CUE you need to press button " IMG " on left panel EAC! Try!

Inform what a drive at you!

@binbonbeach

"Is really important to include and upload the log file of the EAC rip? Why?"

APE file - LOG file.
You - your passport!

@VgeUga
nop, negative Doesn´t work yet....only in b4.....I make the image with eac with IMG button on left panel, normally but not works anyway with police MFSL only b4.
"APE file - LOG file.
You - your passport!" I don't use APE..anyway, Is it necessary on WAV+CU rip?
Log.of Police: (EAC extraction logfile from 19. May 2006, 0:52 for CD
The Police / Synchronicity (Ultradisc II/MFSL)

Used drive : MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8588 Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 103
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000


Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename E:MOBILE FIDELITY CDSPolice SynchronicityThe Police - Synchronicity (Ultradisc II MFSL).wav
Peak level 97.7 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC 3D651ECD
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

@VgeUga
I tested cd copy of Police:Synchronicity and doesn't work with b3 too, only b4...When I will have a time I will upload the EAC image but your test it....

@binbonbeach: Your log file is your rip-"document" (or passport as Vladimir says). It´s customary to include it. It is more transparent how, when & with what the rip was done to the downloader. It authenticates your work to the interested public. The CRC provides valuable info for copying. I usually change the path of where the rip went (replace e:.. with c:*Police SynchronicityThe Police - Synchronicity (Ultradisc II MFSL).wav).

@pete2004
Ahh...ok "It´s customary to include it. It is more transparent how, when & with what the rip was done to the downloader"....I uploaded Steve Winwood Arc of diver and Vangelis Chariots of fire without log, but the next posts have the log .... Thanks for your answer.

@binbonbeach
"I don't use APE..anyway"

Question with personal curiosity:

You upload WAV files for project MFSL on AVAXHOME not compressing?

You compress them RAR?

In that case to what manage the common size of one CD?


"I tested cd copy of Police:Synchronicity and doesn't work with b3 too, only b4...When I will have a time I will upload the EAC image but your test it...."

Question with personal curiosity:

You upload WAV files for project MFSL on AVAXHOME not compressing?

You compress them RAR?

In that case to what manage the common size of one CD?

I shall understand with your problem! I shall specially adjust. But I unequivocally know, that special changes are brought in the version b4, that in case of legal claims it would be possible to prove that a copy not absolute. Many users b4 have problems with stability.

Please download also establish ready new assembly EAC with all conceivable codec, including Apple.

It almost my expanded variant with hidrogenium:)

http://rapidshare.de/files/20311276/ultimateEACpackr06-Install.zip.html

Yes. It needs to be established in the same folder from above already established EAC. But this assembly is superfluous, in it it is too many. With it to not eat well because is not specialized.

@VgeUga

The answer of 3 questions is...YES!!! How in ccd file, the WAV/CUE files have a similar size....and if I compressed in rar form it´s only 20 or 30 MB more bigger than a Ape/CUE file in rar. I writed this before...."I don't need convert this image WAV files in Lossless files....Why? Because I want you have a physical cd, I don't need to store this image on my hardisk and if I make a EAC image with WAV files because this is more compatible with other burn software and more easy to burn for the average people...." this is one of main reasons....When you download rar files , only decompress to WAV/CUE and burn to Nero, Alcohol, Feurio, etc.. It is more easy for average people, you don't need to use other soft to decompress APE to WAV (more complicated)....For other hand, If you want this big files (MFSL: APE or WAV) you need DSL web connection minimus and if it is the case, 25 MB It's no problem for you, but the compatibility is great.
Example of this: the last 2 post fixed: Anal Parsons Project: Tales of Mystery and Imagination and Cat Stevens: Tea for Tillerman....Both uploaded on WAV/CUE EAC image...

Sorry type digital error, correct form:
Example of this: the last 2 post fixed: Alan Parsons Project: Tales of Mystery and Imagination and Cat Stevens: Tea for Tillerman....Both uploaded on WAV/CUE EAC image...
I am very grieved for the word, same number letters but very different meaning.. sorry :((

@VlaUga So if someone rip a MFSL Cd with EAC and right read offset and I burn it with EAC and the correct write offset, then I have a perfect copy?

@all Someone could please tell what's the correct read offset for a daemon tools mounted image?

To binbonbeach

Well:).

First I persuaded for better extraction audio to use EAC.

I shall persuade now for compression audio formats to apply special programs for compression audio:).
Correctly. For to burn CDR it is necessary to use WAV+CUE. Absolutely it is impossible for qualitative to burn CDR to use APE+CUE. Correctly, the more universal device, the worse they carry out separate functions! So it is accepted in nuclear and space technologies.
Also in these technologies it is accepted to use for performance concrete function specialized for this device!
You as I understand, incorrectly understand applicability lossless formats.
Their overall objective - maximum qualitatively to compress WAV.
Their tenth purpose - to give parts undemanding to quality of a sound of people to listen to these formats on a computer, preliminary not unpacking them in WAV.
Correctly! In that case quality is certainly lost. But nobody forces so to do you!
You use lossless formats for direct purpose - to compress audio files with the help of correct methods of compression!
After have transferred these files in lossless a format on a network, unpack them decoder and write down to itself on health in WAV!!!!
Specially for such a case I have prepared you for the special program for compression - releases of musical files!

Serious sound recording firms for transfer of a breadboard model of CD from studio on a factory on manufacture of CD use the same programs for compression. Yes, you have correctly understood - studios transfer breadboard models of CD using a worldnet!
This program http://rapidshare.de/files/21060921/flacdrop.rar.html (900KB).To unpack in C:. At you will appear folder C:FLACDROP in which find a file " flacdrop.lnk " with which you can mark where want, for example on a working table. This file start the program.
To use elementary!
Open the program. Drag mouse WAV a file. Throw it on a window of the program. The inscription starts to blink. After the ending of a blinking in folder where is WAV a file, in initial folder you will find compressed by the correct program of compression a file in format FLAC.
After its transfer on a worldnet in format WAV you unpack this file. For this purpose you drag-n-drop its mouse on a window of same program for compression of musical files. The inscription will start to blink. After the blinking will be ending, you will find in initial folder a file in format WAV.
Further you can burn this WAV+CUE the project on CDR and receive qualitative CDDA!
Any loss of quality!
We have again confirmed, that the Person Reasonable (homo sapiens)!

@VlaUga: Your FLACDROP works great! Thank you! Is there a similar program for shn?
Feurio does not work well on my writer. In your opinion, which is the second best program (for burning)?

@VlaUga

You wrote:
-----------------------------------
"In headphones it is impossible to listen to quality of sounding!!!!

In headphones you will not hear time "accuracy" of music.

In headphones you will not hear air around of tools and the singer. You will not hear volume. Depth of a picture. Cannot divide the guitarist and the drummer!

In any headphones. Even such good as Senh650!"---------------

My friend, I know that... it's obvious... talking about pure music... but I like to listen to some albums with them, for example: Alan Parsons - I Robot, Pink Floyd - The DArk Side of The Moon, and many others. The purity of sounds is extremely notable with MFSL, and I have "hemorragies of satisfaction" with my Senh650 at high levels of volume... and I realize differences between some records qualities, also. Different that music alive but differences at all, and directly to your ears.

Well, one thing... I've been trying MFSL discs, originals, ape, and img with CCD copies, making comparations with originals CDs bought at the shop (no MFSL) with two sound engineers and with a lot of watts between our legs, using professional Hi-End equipment for use at public events and I have to recognize one thing...

FOR US... THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CDS RIPPED FROM APE (WITH EAC), IMG (CCD), AND ORIGINALS MFSL CDS. WE ONLY FELT SOME DIFFERENCES SPECIALLY AT LOW SOUNDS AT VERY HIGH VOLUME LEVELS (REALLY VERY HIGH) WITH THE ORIGINALS. ORIGINALS SOUND PERHAPS MORE PURE. BUT UNAPPRECIATELY ALMOST.

I know that Binbonbeach, Serial, and (Bully?¿?¿) and perhaps many others, will cut my head off after saying that in public... but I have to recognize it. At least for my ears. People like Serial always says that he notes differences between ape, and img formats... and I always thought that I could too. But after trying a lot of CDs in several ways... it's so difficult to distinguish them. Inclusive the CCD ripped at low speed. Of course, they don't sound as "a kitchen radio receiver"

Another question about APE. I've realized important differences between some ape files ripped with different software than EAC and the same music ripped in ape with EAC. EAC is great. No distorssion, at all. For example: listening to Leudovico Einaudi - La Scala Concerto in original, ape normal, and APE with EAC, we found that APE rip with Monkeys Audio, didn't sound equal than APE with EAC. Big difference.
And more....
------------------------------------
You wrote:
"In general it is impossible to listen to qualitative music on a computer. You will not hear also half of that fine quality that is on MFSL!"
-------------------------------------------------------------
OK, but in general only... with my professional PC sound card connected through optical cable to the amplifier, I don't know which one sounds better, the CD player or the PC. Very important ... the software to reproduce the CD into the PC. Winamp and so are no good.


Thanks a lot, and I felt totally impressioned by your last update of EAC for us... WOW... very professional. I'll try it tomorrow.

I've posted already the last MFSL album: Nirvana - Nevermind with EAC (CUE/WAV) and waiting for public feedback. :-))

From now on, I'll upload the MFSL using this format, as I don't want to enter in a big discussion with very friends of mine. They like image files of original CDs, they are easier for the public to be burned onto CD-Rs using Nero or similar... and so, if there are no problems, I'll do that in the future.

Claims to the moderator (bully67), please... :-)))

@All

Very good news... I've being contacted by a person at my country that discovered our Project by references, and he offered me to post a lot of MFSL (more than 10-12) he has in his personal collection, in our Team Project if I give him all our MFSL already posted and future posted. He has no idea of computers and downloading them is a big problem for him. Also he said that to share this collection is a very interesting idea. And I agree, obviously.

So, if everything goes correctly, we'll have more MFSL albums at our disposal very soon.

@pete2004 » Thanks for The Doors! Yes, this thread got very boring, lol.

UPCOMING, when new publications are permitted (temporarily down 5.21.06)
The James Gang - Live In Concert
Carnegie Hall, New York City
MFCD 789

Nothing fancy like all these Project MFSL super posts of 'gold' and 'ultra' discs I've been downloading since finding your web site a coupla days ago. My MFSL disc looks plain aluminum. And it's not a full-length James Gang concert (does one exist?). But it's the last recording of the original trio ... Carnegie Hall accoustics are superb ... and it's live!

* CloneCD image.

@Alejx

"People like Serial always says that he notes differences between ape, and img formats... and I always thought that I could too"

Show me where ive say that!!! I always sayd totaly different...

Why in hell rip to APE when either Deliver an universal MP3 rip or an image-file as IMG.

I have never told anybody on this planet that APE-files sound differ than anything else... Cause i dont listen to or in any other ways use socalled lossless shit who needs special codecs and proggys that fuck up my PC.

Ive sayd before; hanks to all of you that have been so kind to give me all that great sounding music as CCDs. Again thank to you.

Me and my audiophile friends have an realy nice time, and we all look forward to all MFSL images that you going to share with us.

(and please Alejx, send some bananas to the monkeys using APE. Ill pay the show)

Now im leaving some time again for doing hard work. Have an great time everybody. Great things going on even if all not agry. See you around...

@VlaUga
I know man, I understand you about lossles format but please understand me, These beautiful MFSL disc post are for all people, many people don't have the knowledge to convert APE or FLAC to WAV again and then burn it to music CD. Your flacdrop soft (tool) is very easy to use, is great, but all need have it (or maybe include in our lossless post with basic intructions)...But for other hand It is a one more step of compresion (EAC image: original disc> rip EAC to WAV*CUE > RAR files > Upload > download > Unrar files > WAV/CUE > burn to disc::: EAC APE or FLACdrop soft:original disc> rip EAC to WAV*CUE > convert to APE or FLAC > RAR files > Upload > download > Unrar files > APE or Flac File > Convert again WAV/CUE > burn to disc).But I understand you about quality of music and LossLess format is a specific compress soft to audio files (different to rar).....Thanks for your explanations

@alejx007
What???? What do you say? My mud idol is falling to pieces....hahahahaha
It's a joke... No problem to me. But "to use professional Hi-End equipment for use at public events" that's not good idea for test this, because it is builded for different purpose, lots of watts not means quality necessarily, the enviroment is important and change on public place,(e.g acoustic of the room). But I respect your point of view....In this threacherous world, nothing is true or false, all is according to glass through which you look it.

@Serial

I was sure about your reaction... but I tried to explain my point of view... I failed.

OK, you never said that they sound different. What you mean was harder... you'll never listen to lossless format. That's worst yet.

Sometimes I wonder what sh*t am I doing trying to do things correctly. This MFSL PROJECT started because of you and Binbonbeach's idea. Not mine. I'm happy with our old img files done with CCD. But I've tried to improve myself and my knowledgment in ripping and listening HQ music. I don't have a close mind... never... before dead...

Anyway... do I have to understand that you dislike also CUE/WAV format??? Tell me...

@Binbonbeach

I know that about Hi-end equipment at public events... I've tried in a private place with HIFI acoustic equipment and you can feel music better than at public places (auditorium) with Hi-end equip. That depends of many things. Specially (as you indicated, acoustic of the room)
What I'm trying to explain, and perhaps my english is so poor that I fail continously, is that I've tried my MFSL in a lot of different conditions, at home, at the Auditorium, at open public event, in my audiophiles friend homes, and with headphones, with originals, with CDs burned from APE formats (done with EAC and with Monkeys Audio), from FLAC format, and from img (CCD) format, at 320 kbps MP3, also, and I don't feel big differences between the original, the APE and FLAC and the img CCD CDs. Yes with 320 Kbsp files, and with other ape formats.

That's all.

But the most important is our original idea of sharing as most MFSL CDs as posible. And we are losing this feeling (I think) falling in technical requirements more and more complicated.

I know a lot of Avaxians and personal friends that cant or dont know how to burn a img CCD file on a CD-R. I don't want to imagine if we start to publicate with APE or FLAC or ....

I'm tired, and I don't see any MFSL album posted since a long time ago. That wasn't the idea.

@Alejx

"I was sure about your reaction... but I tried to explain my point of view... I failed.

OK, you never said that they sound different. What you mean was harder... you'll never listen to lossless format. That's worst yet."

Why and how to listen to an thing that dont exist? Forget to answer...

I told you when i gave over the files of "Dark side", if you choose another image format using ordinary wintools that not require to put in some ore codcs or plugins that interfeare with my PC, ill do so.

That is also the answer to your last question. CUE/WAV format is OK. If you find that to be the standard, tell me, cause i have to send for the PF album. Take some time.


You write to Binbonbeach;

"But the most important is our original idea of sharing as most MFSL CDs as posible. And we are losing this feeling (I think) falling in technical requirements more and more complicated."

With my very limited time these days, i have great probs following the comments on this page. Its getting very technical and less musical now at the end. Hope its not the end. I dont have anymore MFSLs so i find it problematic to try to push on if you know what i mean.

But one request do i have: If and when you make an solution we all can agree on, please anyone, write an "Image for dummies" at least just for me.

I have not stopped to improve tings Alejx. I just have to choose between things. When an aspect of life begins to get confusing, i stop up and see what i have thats work, and use that until the storm is over. For me is that an improvement in itself :-)

Send some great positive vibs away to you brother :-)

@all
"Due to a technical problem creating new publications (Post news) is currently not available. We are sorry for that and work hard to fix it as soon as possible." I can´t post Steve Winwood: arc of diver and Vangelis: Chariots of fire...both uploaded and links tested that work fine..I am waiting...

@alejx007

" I don't feel big differences between the original, the APE and FLAC and the img CCD CDs." ahh...ok. I am waiting to post Steve Winwood: arc of diver and Vangelis: Chariots of fire. Now I upload the last part (5) of Ultradisc II 50th Anniversary sampler (little gift for us)...soon....read my MP

WWWWWWOOOOOOOWWWWWW Steve Winwood: Arc Of Diver WHERE ??

@ VlaUga
My question was a little bit different.
Assume that I download a CD ripped with EAC and with the correct read offset, then when i burn it with EAC and the correct write offset, I'll get something like a perfect copy, or there's a better way to burn the CD?

:at:Vagante: Yes, if you happen to have the identical burner/firmware it should produce even an identical crc/md5 hash. Please note this copy is the same in the sense it´s identical in the digital sense (101001), but it doesn´t tell anything about the quality of the burn. Vladimir (VlaUga) will tell you "feurio" is better for this, since it is more specialized than EAC. See his posting about the error quota (C1 & C2).

In other words:

Proper Read/Write Offset=Perfect digital copy
Burn/Groove Quality=Notnecessarily

@binbonbeach: Have you tried ripping the "problematic" cd with EAC *.b3 and your drive´s so-called C2 "Error" feature (f10->Extraction Method->Secure Rip)deactivated ???

@binbonbeach: If the "new post" feature still doesn´t work later, pls. solely post the links in this thread. I´m sure many can´t wait starting downloading your latest rips :).

Почитал... Значит так: MFSL только для тех, у кого DSL (использующие модем, нервно курят в сторонке). Для большей совместимости (не многие умеют/хотят пользоваться архиваторами, ****ми их компьютеры) файлы не сжимать/не архивировать, т.к. имеющим DSL, ничего(?) не состоит скачать лишние 25-100 Мб. Использующие APE для экономии трафика, срочно занимают очередь за бананами, т.к. на всех может не хватить. А альбомы MFSL, выложенные/выкладываемые в APE+CUE формате (CCD - наш бог), просто не замечать... Это всё.

@pete2004
No..because b4 works fine but I will try it and I will write you.
Links? Ok: Here we go!!! (sorry for the links but you know my problem with rapidshare upload)

STEVE WINWOOD: ARC OF A DIVER | ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDING | EXACT AUDIO COPY IMAGE (WAV+CUE) | 403 MB (279 MB RAR)|

SW_AOD_MFSL.part1.rar: http://www.filefactory.com/?bb2625
SW_AOD_MFSL.part2.rar: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LUQZUF45
SW_AOD_MFSL.part3.rar: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P8O38VJR

Covers link:
http://momoshare.com/file.php?file=238ba3c24c132b15bad3aa532f846e9f

Log file:
EAC extraction logfile from 18. May 2006, 0:10 for CD
Steve Winwood / Arc of a Diver

Used drive : MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8588 Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 103
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename C:MOBILE FIDELITY CDSSteve Winwood_ Arc of a diverSteve Winwood - Arc of a Diver.wav
Peak level 99.9 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC 9D627722
Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report

@Prot-X
MFSL posts are not only for DSL users,but we understand that for modem users are very hard to download this big files (Don't matter if they are APE+CUE or WAV+CUE) this is real world. Maybe we will can repost MFSL on MP3 340kbps for modem users but they will lost many of excelent audio quality.... If there are posts with APE/CUE that's ok. For other hand if you have a ccd copy, in fact you don´t need to redownload on EAC image, but if you want the best copy audio cd....you know the answer.....it's your choice.

Steve Winwood - (1980) Arc Of A Diver ((MFSL))
EAC+CUE|ape image|240MB(4x48MB,1x41MB)|Covers -> SEE momoshare

Modem User friendlier download links on RS will come soon :)

@binbonbeach
If you understand that the users of modem are very hard to download these big files, help them - pack WAV files in APE/FLAC (it matters). They (users) will be thankful. VlaUga wiped the keys on keyboard, explaining it here.
And even on a modem I will download an album which I very need. ;)
However that may be - big thanks for your efforts. :)

@Prot-X
Maybe you have right in part but one thing for other.....I believe not a lot of modem user people want to download 240 or 279 MB and for other hand a lot of people have a problem beacause they don't know burn a music cd (ask to alejx how many people sended him PM for explain the steps to burn music cd) I don´t want know what happen if all posters will use only lossles format.... Maybe for you this is easy (use of EAC and burn soft)but not for average people.....I respect your point of view....Pete2004 writed that he will repost in Ape image.....That's good...but all my MFSL album (30 aprox) already I have in my hard disk now in EAC WAV+CUE image, they are list to upload and post them. Anyway thanks for your comments and for let me see your point of view.

@pete2004
You're wellcome.

Steve Winwood - (1980) Arc Of A Diver ((MFSL))
EAC+CUE|ape image|233MB(4x48MB,1x41MB)|Covers -> SEE momoshare

Modem User friendlier download links
Part1
Part2
Part3
Part4
Part5

pass:kpnemo - lnks checked 052206

@binbonbeach
Many people have a problem because they don't know how to use archivers. Let us upload without archiving.
Monkey's Audio (APE) it "archiver" for the WAV files and he better compress, than RAR... and it not AutoCAD.

"...but all my MFSL album (30 aprox) already I have in my hard disk now in EAC WAV+CUE image..."
And that difficult now (before upload) to pack WAV in APE... or to use FLACDROP? :)

And some more... I asked already... It was desirable to know - what DISCID in CUE (Tales Of Mystery)?

@Prot-X
"Monkey's Audio (APE) it "archiver" for the WAV files and he better compress, than RAR... and it not AutoCAD" I know that...they are specific compress soft to audio files, etc, etc, etc.
"...but all my MFSL album (30 aprox) already I have in my hard disk now in EAC WAV+CUE image..."
"And that difficult now (before upload) to pack WAV in APE... or to use FLACDROP? :)" I know that again, it's easy for me but I repeat you, Not is for me, please remember I have the original cd that I post here, Which format I use to post here It's no problem to me, believe me I can post in APE or FLAC If I want that....This is a Team project, I will talk to alejx007 about this (they have many other MFSL CDs)and we will take a decision...
"And some more... I asked already... It was desirable to know - what DISCID in CUE (Tales Of Mystery)?" open CUE file with Note block (*.txt) this information is inside. Ok...this is text to CUE file of Tales of Mystery:
REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 1976
REM DISCID 8B09940B
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b3"
CATALOG 0000000000000
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
TITLE "Tales of Mystery and Imagination -Edgar Allan Poe"
FILE "The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination -Edgar Allan Poe.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "A Dream within a Dream"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:37
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "The Raven"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 03:43:55
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "The Tell tale Heart"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 07:44:67
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "The Cask of Amontillado"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 00 12:24:50
INDEX 01 12:27:22
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "(The System of) Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 16:55:60
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "The fall of the House of Usher I Prelude"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 00 21:10:47
INDEX 01 21:14:17
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "The fall of the House of Usher II Arrival"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 27:04:70
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "The fall of the House of Usher III Intermezzo"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 29:40:45
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "The fall of the House of Usher IV Pavane"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 30:46:65
TRACK 10 AUDIO
TITLE "The fall of the House of Usher V Fall"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 35:31:12
TRACK 11 AUDIO
TITLE " To One in Paradise"
PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
INDEX 01 36:38:32

@pete2004
"@binbonbeach: Have you tried ripping the "problematic" cd with EAC *.b3 and your drive´s so-called C2 "Error" feature (f10->Extraction Method->Secure Rip)deactivated ???" Nothing happened the same problem with b3, I reinstalled b4 and all work fine again.

@Prot-X
Sorry I don't remember but I think when I post this album in EAC rip the CUE file are how unknow album....sorry again this is original information..Thanks

@All

When introducing the original CD into the burner and opened EAC, the most of MFSL albums appear as unknown at AccurateRip database... So, is it better to write the data of the disk by hand before ripping? or just leave it as it is... track 01, track 02, unknowon artist...???

@Pete2004

Thanks for the links. Many people needs them.

@Prot-X

We need to think about ripping in APE, FLAC, and also in WAV/CUE formats. My internet connection offers very low upload rate, so I can be for months uploading all the MFSL in all the formats.

I suggest as this is (I think) a TEAM PROJECT, that the owner of the original CDs will upload only in WAV/CUE format with EAC, and other people, with fast DSL connection (if interested for help the others or for Premium Points) can upload in APE, FLAC, MP3 or whatever...

@binbonbeach
Thanks for information from a CUE file.

@alejx007
"My internet connection offers very low upload rate, so I can be for months uploading all the MFSL in all the formats."
And... where logic? Internet connection very low, but I will be upload files very big.

To me identically - that RAR (APE, FLAC, other super-puper archiver)... only this was a quality disk copy and took less seat.

Well... thanks for attention... good luck to your TEAM PROJECT! :)
I must leave you... me wait great causes... ;)

@Prot-X

Aren't you tired of discussions about APE, FLAC, and others lossless matters?? :-)))

Please, accept my gift to all of you in WAV/CUE format, and do what you want... I'm doing it. I'm doing what I really want... just it. I trust you about APE, FLAC, and SHORTEN or ANYOTHER format. But I am not going to post MFSL albums in these formats. NO...

And NO, just because I respect all the other people that will have problems to use APE, FLAC and ANYOTHER format to burn the CDs, using codecs for Nero, for winamp, downloading Monkeys software and many other things that you and me knows how to do... but not them. And my MFSL albums are for the public...

Do you understand it, or it is so hard to be understood? :-)

Binbonbeach and me are the two guys that are uploading and posting the most of MFSL PROJECT, and we have decided to do our post in this way. We have learned how to use EAC, we have spent time and efforts in doing the best rip for our HQ music. Just because we want to offer to all Avaxians the best we have.

And no more...

Well, and now I must leave you, too... Great causes wait for me, too... Uploading and posting more MFSL albums....

@alejx007
How Porky pig said: It's all, it's all folks::::: ;)))))

Now we can concentrate to uploading, downloading and burning!

@alejx007 and binbonbeach
I'm with you; first of all the music; and your is great HQ music. Stop discussions. My personal think is that your way of posting is the best and easy way. I want to thank you again, for your efforts and all, many many tanks... I'm listening from two weeks "Synchronicity" and it sounds tremendously great... I am hungry of new post.

@all
ULTRADISC II 50TH ANNIVERSARY SAMPLER.. EAC image (693mb/464mb rar) 5 parts...SOON
LINKS TESTED ALREADY... Thanks laila.

@alejx007
Please, any chance to repost King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) Remastered as MFSL (1983) ???

It would be great. Thanks in advance.

Yes, sirs! Powerfully! I respect!

Now I do not know, from what to start to download... You have Asked me!
I ask the big advice!:)

Your decision to compress RAR I support. Put an option the maximal compression! Put an option - the information for restoration. And - all is fine!

Thank for fine music in fine quality!

binbonbeach:
You use EAC with the Spanish language? Or English?

@VlaUga
Mmmmmm.... I used EAC to rip many MFSL with Spanish language...But I saw that my *log file is with spanish language too..Now I use EAC with english language....but Does't matter which language EAC use Police doesn't work on b3......When I will have a little time I will upload police EAC rip for you test it... (with the copy happened same)

@alejx007
the links to albums of the police, Tales of mystery and Tea for tillerman are wrong, and now are EAC rip....
correct links:
http://avaxhome.ws/music/police_synchronicity_mfsl.html
http://avaxhome.ws/music/tales_of_mystery_mfsl_repost.html
http://avaxhome.ws/music/tea_for_the_tillerman_mfsl_repost.html
thanks.

@VlaUga

I'll do it at my RAR files. If I find the options into rar software.... I'm afraid of maximal compression... Write the information for restauration... ??? Where???

@bono66

Many people is asking me to repost the King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King again, as it has been the only MFSL album deleted by RS at the moment.
And I'm answering to all the people the same thing: "I'm doing a very big effort to upload and post all my MFSL, taking care of the MFSL main page, etc. So, I've decided to finish with all my posts at first, and afterwards, once the Project will be finished, I'll repost the deleted ones...

Another option as TEAM PROJECT, with more than 800 users that have downloaded the album already, is that any other friend of us, meanwhile I continue ripping, compressing, uploading and posting the other MFSL... will repost the deleted one... it's just an option...:-))

@binbonbeach

I'll change them in two hours....

#binbonbeach

Done...

@alejx007: if you use winrar 3.3 the max.compression (left bottom),recovery option(right "Archiving options"), pw/lock option etc. should be on the "general" tab. On the "Advanced" tab you´ll in the right upper corner "Recovery record". Many use 3-5% Recov. record.

@bono66: I´ll try to upload the album 4 you in a bit. But let me warn you, it will be more modem_user friendly - meaning more parts to dl.

@alejx007: Please correct ->
Emerson, Like & Palmer - Tarkus
Uploaded by Tarkus (CloneCD image)

-> to .... (FLAC image)

@alejx007

When you drop your files on a window of program RAR3.51, there is a window of the master of compression with the list of options.
On the right will see the list of options.
Find item " to add the information for restoration ".
Be not afraid of the maximal compression.
For what to check up quality of the turned out file *.RAR, in the same options find item " to test files after packing ".
If it is required to you more exact program devices:), please write vlauga ( )gmail.com

Well here´s the Modem_User_friendlier version, too:

King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King

Part1
Part2
Part3
Part4
Part5
Part6


Format of archives - RAR (amount of recovery information is 3%)
Формат архивов - RAR (размер информации для восстановления 3%)

pw / Пароль: kpnemo, links checked 05/25/06

Удачи! / Good luck!
Pleasant listening! / Приятного прослушивания! :-)

@ALL

If there are any other MFSL files deleted or anyone that need smaller files, just PM me. It will at least take 24 hours, but the files come!
Otherwise i tell if problems. I do ONLY uploads at RS, and since the MFSL files should reach out to everybody, so please upload the files to other servers those of you that can and know :-)

Hope to be getting Steely Dan - Aja, and maybe even Def Leppard - Hysteria soon, me crosses fingers lol :)

@Pete2004
@VlaUga

Many, many thanks to both of you for your technical assistance. Very necesary and helpful in this Team Project as all of us have been able to see during all the time we have been together.

I'll try to do thing correctly next post....

@bono66

You got it, thanks to Serial.

@Serial

You're a friend... I need more like you... well... sorry... perhaps with only one like you can be enough... :-))) Yes, only one is better...:-)

Cheers, Brother... and thank you very much.

@Toejam

You'll get Steely DAn - Aja... I promise, but you need more luck with Def Leppard... perhaps another Avaxian...??? :-)

@alejx007 and @pete2004 and @binbonbeach and @all the Team

I relly want to thank you for your big efforts; is not easy to find persons like you, that spend your own time to satisfy our hunger of quality music. This is a great Team and i hope that this will live to long long time.

Specially tank for pete2004 for King Crimson repost...

"We want you and your MFSL music"

@alejx007
I believe toejam says us that He ordered them to buy....and he waits recived them soon....

@bono66
Thanks... your comment are a good thing for us...

@binbonbeach

Yes... perhaps I read wrongly his comment...

@bono66

As binbon said:

Thanks... your comment are a good thing for us...

great series of posts - thanks many times

any chance of "Who's Next" by The Who ? - a great album, first to use synths and guitars - showed the way for many to follow

@all
For all that have a problema with megaupload:
All download slots (800) assigned to your country (XXXXXXXX) are in use.
Please try again later.

Megaupload trick:

a) Use this link web: http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html
b) Put megaupload link here
c) Click in surf anonymously
d) You will have to wait a few seconds
e) Click with right mouse button on the "here for download" button
f) Choose "properties"
g) Copy the link to other IE window, on direction (address)
h) Eliminate the "http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html" part
i) Download your file….

Easy friends…..

OK, got Steely Dan - Aja, and Elton John - Goodbye Yellowbrick Road. Should arrive probably at the end of next week (hopefully) which means around 6/02 - can't wait :)

What's the best way to upload these. I've got Albums (including UHQR's) such as Woodstock, and also Half speed masters by defunct companies such as Nautilus, Direct Disk Labs, etc. I also have about 75 plus (I'm not really sure of the number) gold discs. Since I'm pretty new to uploading. I'm not sure of the best way. Could someone give me suggestions and a want list??

@ bobby joe bradley - It all depends I suppose on what type of internet connection you have. I think the most stable place is rapidshare, although there will always be a difference of opinion. My suggestion is not to archive the files with the full, or correct name of the music you are going to share as it might get deleted. If you are familiar with WinRAR Im sure you know you can change the name any files you want to whatever name pleases you. The norm of file size seems to be approx. 100mb per file, but its your choice. As far as which ones to upload, thats your choice as well, but maybe stick with regular gold cd's (if the others present a problem in recording/playing on some systems)

This is just my two cents worth, you'll undoubtedly get other input on this. Thanx for offering to share your collection with us!! You might want to make a list of your collection and post here to see what people might be interested in.

´til it reappears:

Woodstock I & II - (1970, 1971) V.A.((MFSL 19?? MFCD 4-816))[ape] is here

@bobby joe bradley:
Here are fans of every high quality recording. I would be very happy to get some of yours. Can you share it with us ? Thank you very much !

@All

I burned some of the MFSL-images on CD-Rs with black carbon surface I got from ebay. The result was great !! I tried several CD-Rs but this result was the best for my ears. This CD-Rs are not expensive. But I think worth to test them !

Thanks to everyone who shares his high quality CDs here with us !

@all
Ultradisc II 50th Anniversary Sampler - MFSL: Here
rapidupload is on line agains all links work fine.....
serial uploaded them on rapidshare (many thanks friend:

http://rapidshare.de/files/21483357/Ultradisc_II_50th_Anniversary_Sampler.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21496119/Ultradisc_II_50th_Anniversary_Sampler.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21500556/Ultradisc_II_50th_Anniversary_Sampler.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21506131/Ultradisc_II_50th_Anniversary_Sampler.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21510451/Ultradisc_II_50th_Anniversary_Sampler.part5.rar

Dear participants of the project!
The big request!
Upoad your files on filesharing service which support resume a broken download.

For example:
http://www.sendspace.com/
http://www.megaupload.com/

Please NOT http://www.rapidupload.com ! If it is possible.

@All

Sorry for leaving the Project alone, but I have been "outside" for all weekend... Well...

@Toejam

Big and important news ..."Steely Dan - Aja, and Elton John - Goodbye Yellowbrick Road MFSL" WOW.. We'll wait... Thanks for the big effort to get new MFSL and sharing them with us... GREAT TEAM SPIRIT...!!!!

@ bobby joe bradley

Ummm... welcome to our Avax Music Community Project, specially if you enter here full of Gold CD's :-))) Nooo, it's a joke, you're always welcomed... really.
But, as we are now envolved in this important project, I'd like to know which MFSL CD's do you own in your personal collection, for example a list of them here as a comment or a PM to me and I'll include it on the main page... despite of other Gold CD's you can have (that we are also interested, of course)... just tell me, please.

About your personal lessons to rip, rar, upload and post, here you have a technical support that will pass over any expectation you have. :-) Just try us... starting with VlaUga and Pete2004, Toejam and finishing by Binbonbeach, Alejx007 and a lot more of members that will be happy to help you... REally...

@The unexpected rooster

OK, I'll take note of that. I'm burning my MFSL collection on EMTEC GOLD CD-Rs and my piano collection on SONY AUDIOPHILE GRAPHITE CD-Rs, and I'm also very happy with results...

@Binbonbeach and Serial..

Perfect both of yourselves, working as a team... I need this sensation... GREAT.. It's like Schumaker and Fernando Alonso running together... :-)))

@VlaUga

OK, but I prefer Rapidshare... just 9,90 USD for a trial account and you can download all MFSL albums ... JUST 9,90 USD, less than 7 EUROS.... ALL MFSL ... so quickly, so sure, so fast, with resume downloads, download accelerators posible,... different servers to upload and download... it was the first time I paid for something in the web in all my life, and I've got the biggest result for my investment of my life also...

But, sendspace is good and megaupload (sometimes) is also good... OK, I repeat...

@All

I've tried to update this main page, but I had problems with uploading pics, so I decided to semi-update only... sorry...

@alejx007

"But, sendspace is good and megaupload (sometimes) is also good... OK, I repeat..."

Thanks! It is very grateful!
It is Russia... It is the modem... Oh...Oh...

@VlaUga
"Thanks! It is very grateful!
It is Russia... It is the modem... Oh...Oh..."

Please tell us....Do you use a telephone modem? 0_o

http://www.sendspace.com/
http://www.megaupload.com/

I taked note.....

@binbonbeach: Don´t forget Russia is a large & wide open country. Therefore one cannot expect "powerlines" everywhere. Plus the wheather in certain parts and at certain times don´t help. I´m sure you´ve heard about the "Russian" winter (historically & on tv).

@alejx007: While $10,00 might not sound a lot to "us", don´t forget for a lot of ppl. that´s a lot of money, if you look at it from the income site.

@VlaUga: Don´t worry I´ll reupload stuff whenever possible at kpnemo or simply pm me, if there´s a wish on your part :). While the old soviet times may be gone, Lenins & Trotzkys spirit are still with me ;-).

@alejx007: I´m curious - have you ever checked for possible burn errors with a program like cdspeed, kprobe etc. ? Or do you solely rely on your ears ?

I know everyone has their favorite web host for uploading to, but I also think rapidshare is great! I have never spent the money for something such as this, but I'M a believer now. Since my one and only investment of approx. $10.00, I have already earned another months free service, and am half way to a second free month!!!!!!

On a different note, I have upped a tutorial I made which I am asking alejx007 to look at, and if he is satisfied with it (hopefully no errors - lol)I have asked him to post it here in the hopes it will get more people to share their "goodies" with us.

Here's a list of the cd's I have in the order they came out:

Dave Grisman - Hot Dawg
Huey Lewis - Sports
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Steely Dan -Aja
Elton John - Madman Across the Water
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Sting - Dream of the Blue Turtles
Various - After the Hurricane
Jeff Beck - Wired
Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story
Boz Scaggs - Silk Degrees
Elton John - Honky Chateau
Frank Sinatra - Songs for Swingin' Lovers
Joe Jackson - Night and Day
Various - Red, Hot and Blue
Bryan Adams - Reckless
Steely Dan - Gaucho
John Coltraine - Blue Train
B.B. King - Live at the Regal
Tom Petty - Damn the Torpedoes
Eric Clapton - Slowhand
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Second Helping
Keith Richards - Talk is Cheap
The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East
Blood, Sweat & Tears - Blood, Sweat & Tears
Elvis Presley - That's the Way It Is
Cannonball Adderly - Somethin' Else
Robert Cray - Strong Persuader
John Lee Hooker - The Healer
Rush - Moving Pictures
U2 - War
Dave Mason - Alone Together
Otis Redding - Otis Blue
Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign
Manhatten Transfer - Extensions
Boston - Third Stage
Derek & The Dominoes - Layla
Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything?
Mel Torme & Buddy Rich - Together Again
Heart - Heart
John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
John Mellencamp - Scarecrow
John Mayall - Bluesbreakers
The Allman Brothers - Brothers and Sisters
Cray, Collins & Copeland - Showdown
Albert Collins - Cold Snap
John Mayall - The Blues Alone
Counting Crows - August & Everything Else
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Ten years After - Ssssh.../Cricklewood Green
Don Henley - Building the Perfect Beast
Don Henley - The End of the Innocence

Ups ! Great Albums. Don Henley and Clapton would be a great upload :-)))

All :-)))

All is a very good idea, too !! :-))

@bobby joe bradley
Very, very good list... but I have a question: Are they all MOBILE FIDELITY SOUND LABS or Golden special editions?

@All

Yes, of course... All of them... but:

First question, as Binbonbeach asked: Are they all MOBILE FIDELITY SOUND LABS ...?

It is not really so important, as we want them all in any case...:-))) but, first of all, we are talking about MFSL just to finish the Project (will it be finished one day???:-))

Second: we must teach bobby joe to do things correctly with his jewels... isn't it?

I'm reading Toejam tutorial, and in a few minutes, I'll post it....

@All ... specially Bobby Joe Bradley

Please, all of yourselves that would like to post any MFSL using CloneCD, read the

"Ripping and Compressing for Dummies" tutorial, done by Toejam.

http://rapidshare.de/files/21659118/My_Tutorial_For_Extracting_CD_Audio_to_a_CloneCD_Image.mht.html

That will help you to publicate the best music at the best quality.

If any question, please.. just write a comment in here.

THANKS A LOT TOEJAM... VERY WELL DONE, VERY NICE WORK....!!!

@Binbonbeach
!Wonderful Elton John shares, but.... your links for part 3 and part 4 are the same
(both point to part 3). Please correct the link for part 4. Thank you again.

Link 4:
http://rapidshare.de/files/21484325/EJ_H_CH_MFSL.part4.rar.html

Here´s your CloneCD tutorial download alternative:
sendspace

@all:
Elton John posts are fixed with the correct link.

@Laila:
Thanks for showing the correct links to the files.

Huey Lewis - Sports
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Eric Clapton - Slowhand
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Second Helping
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive

Sure would appreciate these! many thanx for your list,:)

@bobby joe bradley: to be honest, I would like to have all!

@alejx007

I was surprised to find my Woodstock MFSL album posted with your team project as I was under the impression you were seeking only gold MSFL. Woodstock was released long before the gold CD’s made an appearance. I believe the CD’s are aluminium. Are all MFSL CD’s accepted? If so.....I would have published this earlier plus......I have more older MFSL's as well......what say you?

@bobby joe bradley

I agree with Laila...:-)) 54 albums...Neah, nothing at all... :-)) Well, but from these 54, more than 15 are holded by Toejam, Binbonbeach or myself. So, if you're going to start to post any, please, let's arrange to an agreement between all of us... OK???

One thing... personal... sorry... can you start with Peter Frampton - Comes Alive???... PLEEEEAAASSEEE.....:-))

@Sedgehopper

Noooo.... all MFSL are welcomed... look at Sgt Peppers, vinyl rip... no matter, we are collecting all the MFSL we are able to meanwhile the Project shall be alive... I never expected to collect so much as we are collecting... I'm so happy at this moment. All the other CDs (no MFSL) sound to me like Coca-Cola cans with metal inside... :-)))


About other Gold CDs different to MFSL, I'm sure that we'll start another Project for them. They sound also wonderfully... but they are not MFSL ...

@binbonbeach

"Please tell us....Do you use a telephone modem? 0_o"

Oh...Oh...Oh.... :) 70 MB per day.
And what to do... It is the great project! Thanks for it! Very much it would be desirable to hear! At home -the modem.

@pete2004
"While the old soviet times may be gone, Lenins & Trotzkys spirit are still with me ;-)."

:)

"Don´t worry I´ll reupload stuff whenever possible at" Thanks!

@binbonbeach, Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - Getz Gilberto has a error in the cue file and I cannot proceed to try to burn the data to a cd, is there a fix for this? It says, "INDEX position is behind end of FILE in line 16" on this track -

TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Doralice"
PERFORMER "Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto"
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 05:20:15

BTW, I am using EAC to try to burn this....

@toejam: I burnt it with Feurio! and had no problem! Maybe
you should try Feurio!, VlaUga says its the best! and he
probably is right.

All the cd's I posted are MFSL gold discs. I have a lot of their albums also but about 30 have never been opened (such as my UHQR of Sgt Peppers). I'll try my first post later this week and it will be Frampton Comes Alive.

Sendspace download alternatives "kpnemo"



CD 1+cover (132MB)



file+cover (185MB)



file (285MB)
cover (33MB)

<at>toejam: I just burned the "stan getz" rip with eac 095.3b with binbonbeach´s cue sheet. Result: No problem here ! (also seems to play fine) :sorry:

Can you play the image using the cue-sheet on your comp ? Have you ripped others successfully ?

<at>bobby joe bradley: If some of them are still sealed, I wouldn´t open them. ´Cause from a collector´s point of view they fetch a "premium" price. But if you don´t intend to ever sell ´em --> go right ahead and share ´em :).

On the subject of ripping: It´s customary among "pros" to rip audio-cds with eac. You´ll find some download links further up. I suggest compress them as so-called "lossless" image files. The most common are ape or flac. Ape is preferred, because it has a slightly better compression rate. If you like pm me, so I can directly put you on the "right" path ;-)

Your Sendspace download alternative "kpnemo":


file+cover (260MB)

@all:
Incredible job. Thank's for all your time spend on this. I'm mostly a prog fan, but with this project I discovering many classic rock masterpieces, I heve never thought that I could enjoy something from Elton John or Simon & Garfunkel for example.

@pete2004:
I appreciate a lot your download alternatives. For me, the combination of ape+sendspace+single file is the perfect one (3x-4x improvement over rapidshare).

@bobby joe:
Wonderfull collection, waiting for jeff beck ....:)

Your Sendspace download alternatives "kpnemo":



file+cover (264MB)
md5 hash for orginal wav - 4279af5f44fb285080732de7256690a9

Your Sendspace download alternatives "kpnemo"


CD 1+cover (130MB)
CD 2+cover (135MB)

Okay, folks, here's my list of MFSL that I have collected and would like to upload:

The Byrds - Untitled
Cat Stevens - Tea For The Tillerman
Cat Stevens - Teaser and the Firecat
Cat Stevens - Izitso (Disc 2)
Don McLean - American Pie
The Jam - All Mod Cons and Sound Affects
John Lennon and Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
Loggins & Messina - Full Sail
The Moody Blues - A Question of Balance
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
The Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves Favor
The Moody Blues - On The Threshold of a Dream
The Moody Blues - Seventh Sojourn
The Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children
Queen - The Game
Queen - A Day At The Races
REM - Murmur
REM - Reckoning
Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair
Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
Traffic - Traffic
Utopia - Oops! Wrong Planet

I tried to search and make sure none of these have been posted or are "coming soon", but if I've overlooked something please let me know.

I want to give a big hug to all of you wonderful Avaxians who have contributed to AvaxHome.ru and made this one of the best sites on the net. I have been exposed to some incredible and amazing finds thanks to all of you! It is my sincere hope that my contributions can make you even a fraction as happy as you all have made me with yours.

A special thanks to all of the AWESOME Team leaders and contributors here in this fantastic MFSL project! You guys and gals have blazed the trail -- this will go down in history as one of the greatest community shared music threads ever!

And Toejam, a big giant hug and kiss to you for the tutorial you made. If it wasn't for your tutorial, it would have taken me ages to figure out how to make and upload my collection.

Peace and Love to you all,

~llamamama

@llamamama: really fantastic list and a great THANK YOU for
shareing these discs with us! Already posted:
Cat Stevens - Tea For The Tillerman
Cat Stevens - Teaser and the Firecat
Queen - A Day At The Races
My best regards

Thanks very much, laila. Much of my personal collection has already been uploaded, so I am very happy that there are still a few open slots that I can help fill. If anyone has a request from my list, please post in this thread and I will upload using that order.

I would like to make a request for Rickie Lee Jones if anyone has it. She is one of my all time favorites. Request:

MFSL-1-089 - Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones [1983]

I am so excited to know that Bobby Joe Bradley is posting Frampton Comes Alive and Toejam is posting Asa soon! Two more of my favorites! This is like Heaven for MFSL music lovers! Go, Team!

@llamamama: If I am aloud to post my wishes: please begin with
the blues masters (King,Hooker etc) and E. Clapton! (Just one night - available?)
Thank you very much!

I would like to make some requests too:
Blues masters like Hooker, King etc. and
E.Clapton -Just One Night.
Thank you!

@llamamama

I'd like to make a request for:

Cat Stevens - Izitso (Disc 2) - what happened to your Disc #1 ?
Don McLean - American Pie

and also

MFSL - Queen - News of the World - if you still have this MFSL, it is "a must have" !

Thanks to all of you, MFSL "freaks" :)

I want to tell concerning the description, as ripper audioCD using Clone CD.

I agree, it is possible to try ripper with help Clone CD.

BUT ONLY THEN, when you all over again have checked up, how is read your concrete audioCD on your concrete device CDROM with help EAC!

At EAC there is a function "test".

If after testing your concrete CDDA in EAC
There will be such report:
---------------------------------------
EAC extraction logfile from 18. May 2006, 23:59 for CD
Nirvana / Nevermind - Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab

Used drive: HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-4120B Adapter: 0 ID: 0
Read mode: Secure with C2, accurate stream, NO disable cache
Combined read/write offset correction: 0
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out: No

..........................................................


Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename F:Pre uploadsNirvana - Nevermind.wav

Peak level 98.4 %
Range quality 99.9 %
CRC B5F12588
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report
----------------------------------

Where "Range quality 99.9 %" I would advise you very much to think, before ripper with help CloneCD.
Because in 0.1 % of a part of yours audio CD (it is a pity if it will be MFSL CDDA, in fact you got it because of the highest quality!) Clone CD WILL !DRAW! !ITSELF! digital readout.
Which will not have anything the common with your remarkable MFSL gold CDDA....

@llamamama

YES! YES! YES! PLEASE!!!

Queen - The Game
The Byrds - Untitled
Don McLean - American Pie
Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair
The Jam - All Mod Cons and Sound Affects

@All

My proposition for

Bobby Joe Bradley

to upload and post, depending of course of his time and possibilities, could be..


Albert Collins - Cold Snap
Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign
B.B. King - Live at the Regal
Blood, Sweat & Tears - Blood, Sweat & Tears
Boston - Third Stage
Boz Scaggs - Silk Degrees
Cannonball Adderly - Somethin' Else
Counting Crows - August & Everything Else
Cray, Collins & Copeland - Showdown
Dave Grisman - Hot Dawg
Dave Mason - Alone Together
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Derek & The Dominoes - Layla
Don Henley - Building the Perfect Beast
Don Henley - The End of the Innocence
Elton John - Madman Across the Water
Elvis Presley - That's the Way It Is
Eric Clapton - Slowhand
Frank Sinatra - Songs for Swingin' Lovers
Heart - Heart
Huey Lewis - Sports
Jeff Beck - Wired
Joe Jackson - Night and Day
John Coltraine - Blue Train
John Lee Hooker - The Healer
John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
John Mayall - The Blues Alone
John Mellencamp - Scarecrow
Keith Richards - Talk is Cheap
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Second Helping
Manhatten Transfer - Extensions
Mel Torme & Buddy Rich - Together Again
Otis Redding - Otis Blue
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Robert Cray - Strong Persuader
Rush - Moving Pictures
Steely Dan - Gaucho
Ten years After - Ssssh.../Cricklewood Green
The Allman Brothers - Brothers and Sisters
Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything?
Tom Petty - Damn the Torpedoes
U2 - War
Various - After the Hurricane
Various - Red, Hot and Blue


Well, so long list... WOW... but I've heard that you are man enough for that and many more... :-)))

Opinions are accepted, of course...

My proposition for

Binbonbeach

to upload and post, depending of course of his time and possibilities, could be..

Aretha Franklin - I never Loved a Man The way I love you
Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul & Aretha Now
Neil Diamond - Hot August Night (cd1 and cd2)
Steve Winwood - Talking Bach To The Night
The Modern Jazz Quartet - At Music Inn - Volume 2
The Modern Jazz Quartet - Blues At Carnegie Hall
The Moody Blues_In search of the lost chord (soon: uploading now)

Well, not so long list... but long enough... but you have help from Laila and many others, so you have no option to claim, just post... :-)))

Opinions are accepted, of course...

My proposition for

Llamamama

to upload and post, depending of course of his time and possibilities, could be..

Cat Stevens - Izitso (Disc 2)
Don McLean - American Pie
John Lennon and Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
Loggins & Messina - Full Sail
Queen - The Game
REM - Murmur
REM - Reckoning
Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair
The Byrds - Untitled
The Jam - All Mod Cons and Sound Affects
The Moody Blues - A Question of Balance
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
The Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves Favor
The Moody Blues - On The Threshold of a Dream
The Moody Blues - Seventh Sojourn
The Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children
Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
Traffic - Traffic
Utopia - Oops! Wrong Planet

Also a very long list... I had not time to say you welcome to our MFSL TEAM PROJECT, so I do it now... :-))
We need you... :-))!!!

And very good luck with popular requests... hahahaha.. :-)) It's imposible to give satisfaction to everypeople... but you can try, of course. :-)

Opinions are accepted, of course...

My proposition for

Toejam

to upload and post, depending of course of his time and possibilities, is...

Steely Dan - Aja
Elton John - Goodbye Yellowbrick Road

Not so long at all, but perhaps yours have more value than others, as you have been fighting to find your MFSL albums to share with us... Yes, yours are unvaluable... Thanks a lot for your effort.

Opinions are accepted, of course...

My proposition for

Alejx007 (myself)

to upload and post, depending of course of his time and possibilities, is...

Aimme Mann - Lost In Space
Bing Crosby - Bing Sings Whilst Bregman Swings
Bryan Adams - Reckless
Cream - 1967 Disraeli Gears
Cream - 1969 Goodbye
Dvorak - 1975 Piano Concerto In G Minor, Op. 33
Earth Wind and Fire - 1975 That's The Way Of The World
Eric Clapton - Eric Clapton
Gerry Mulligan & Ben Webster - Mulligan Meets Webster
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Guns N' Roses - Lies
John Hiatt - Bring The Family
John Mayall - 1966 Blues Breakers With Eric Clapton
Marianne Faithfull - 1979 1987 - Broken English & Strange Weather
Muddy Waters - Folk Singer
Patricia Barber - Cafe Blue
Rod Stewart - 1971 Every Picture Tells A Story
Rush - 2112
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
The Allman Brothers Band - 1971 At Fillmore East
The Beatles - Yellow Submarine
The Byrds - 1965 Mr. Tambourine Man
The Kinks - Low Budget
The Velvet Underground & Nico
The Who - 1978 - Who Are You

Well, in which year are we now... 2006??? Ummm, perhaps in a cuple of years will finish this Project...:-))

But it worths... isn't it...??

@bobby joe bradley:

SuperB!

PLEASE this else possible:

Cannonball Adderly - Somethin' Else
Frank Sinatra - Songs for Swingin' Lovers
John Coltraine - Blue Train
Elvis Presley - That's the Way It Is
John Lee Hooker - The Healer
Manhatten Transfer - Extensions
Boston - Third Stage
Heart - Heart
Ten years After - Ssssh.../Cricklewood Green

@ALL
Please not upload all these remarkable albums at once now!
Please do holiday MFSL during all 2006!
Thanks!

Unbeliefable, never seen or heared of anything like this project!

@alejx and all

Now team are posted 52 MFSL ALBUMS!!!!!!!

Team will post in a future: 95 MFSL LABUMS MORE!!!!!

WOW THIS IS GREAT!!!!! FOR NOW WE CAN WAIT TO HAVE 147 MFSL ALBUMS AT END OF THIS PROJECT!!!!!!! MAYBE MORE....COME AND SHARING MFSL WITH ALL US....PLEASE

Still waiting on the arrival of Steely Dan - Aja & Elton John - Goodbye Yellowbrick Road. Probably wont be here until next week sometime.

Paypal gets their money quickly from my bank, but doesnt pay the person who has the items very quickly. Bad, bad paypal - lol

This is the best project on planet earth ! It is worth to buy a new cd-player or amplifier or speakers or or or..to get the very best result out of these fantastic mfsl-cds.

Thank you all !

I have no more words for you guys...
Just a little question...is possible tu use another way to post projects, because for me to wait 1 hour for each download with rapidshare is very boring and can't take a premium account from my internet location.

I love this team.

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<bono66> I sent you a pm re: RS ;-)

@laila: I'll do my best, but I don't know how many of the blues masters MFSL that Mr. Muse has in our collection. So far, I haven't found any of your requested titles, but Mr. Muse is not as organized as me, so they could be hidden in another room. LOL! I'll take a look later when I get home and let you know. This project has inspired me to catalogue our collection once and for all.

@pevac - You are next on the list after laila, so I will try to post your request starting on Saturday when I have some more free time. I don't know what happened to Izitso Disc 1; it looks like it is misplaced, but if I do find it, I will post that for you as well. MFSL - Queen - News of the World is already uploaded on Rapidshare, but I don't have time to make an announcement page for Avax until later today. However, if you want to get a headstart, here are the links (the scanned covers will be posted later):

http://rapidshare.de/files/21896978/Queen_-_News_of_the_World.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21901037/Queen_-_News_of_the_World.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.de/files/21908611/Queen_-_News_of_the_World.part3.rar

@VlaUga - good advice about the testing. I will try to start posting your requests starting Monday, but since I am very short on time lately and it takes a loooong time to upload these files, I don't know when your lit will be completed. But I will do my best.

@alejx007 - You keep calling me "him", but I am a girl! LOL! I think also that Toejam is a girl and Laila too -- is this correct? Are we the only women in this project? If true, that is very sad! Boys are not the only ones who enjoy quality music, right?

Anyway, alejx007, you are an excellent person -- I really admire the way you are helping to organize this project. I think your list of suggestions for us all is very good and I will stick to your list unless anyone has objections. alejx007, WOW! What a fantastic collection -- I am really looking forward to your contributions.

@All:

We have some problems to consider:

First, this project is so amazing and we all want it to last forever (or at least until we have all downloaded to our heart's desire and completed our collections), but this thread is getting too large and soon it will be impossible to load. I think we need to start a seperate forum using one of the free bulletin board services to keep this project organized. Everyone will still come to Avax to post our MFSL news, but the bulletin board could just be used to make comments and communicate more effectively with each other. Does anyone have the time to make such a forum?

Second, our contributions are not getting enough exposure, in my opinion. If you look on Avax and Softlenta, you will notice that only a fraction of these MFSL posts are being presented because so much good stuff is coming out (not just our music, but other news too), it all gets pushed to page 3,4 or even 5 within a few hours sometimes. Also, the search features on both Avax and Softlenta don't always show the full results of these MFSL posts. These files are a lot of work and I think they deserve more exposure so that everyone can enjoy this excellent music. I don't know what to to about this problem, but maybe some of you have suggestions.

Third, some people are not able to download from Rapidshare due to the one hour limitation on free accounts, etc. We need a group of Avaxians who are able to provide mirrors to the original links. Who can do this? It would be nice if we had an organized "Mirror Crew" who could adopt our project and keep it flowing.

Well, that's all I have to say for now. Once again, thank you all for your fantastic contributions and great advice.

P.S. In my spare room, I found MFSL - Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything? :) There may be more titles added to my list later.

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PS: How´s your baby ?

@llamamama
first: sood idea but maybe this will can confuse to many people (different webs for different proposes)...maybe...alejx what do you say?
second: your idea is good but is a double edged sword...Remember we are sharing a MFSL albums (do you remember copyright rigths?), more sites more probability that cds brand complaint to share server and erase the links fast.... we need think very carefully this idea...
third: how pete2004 says. He had provide download alternative links (very, but very hard work) and when I finish to upload my last MFSL albums (6) maybe I will can help him on this work....

Regards

Nope, I am not female - at least not since the day I was born til this very day - LOL

There is a possibility that I could come up with a place to store the music, but it would require limited access, and only to those directly involved with this section. this could be discussed further if needed...

@Llamamama

Many thanks for your above comment ... really a pleasure to have you here. And Mr. Muse, too...

I was almost sure that you were a girl, but I prefer to fault calling you "him" and you are "her", than calling you "her" and you are "him".... :-)) I don't know why, but I can't make a distinction between males and females just for the nicknames... :-) I admire yourselves that you can...:-)

I'm very glad to see that women take the Power, here at AvaxHome, too. Not only at home or at work... Great...!!! I'm also glad to meet you, as same than Toejam, as women. A great pleasure...

And you know that you are not alone: Iceshoweronfire, Laila and Jozzie121 are also great uploaders and posters here... the Best of the Best, not only in musical taste but also as persons, both of them. A question, excuse me if I don't give you a special treatment as women in future, I'll treat yourselves as persons only, OK??? I never make out between males and females... just persons...

More...

Your ideas seem perfect, reading them, but we must have other considerations in our minds before acting, I think.

Following Binbonbeach, the first idea of opening a forum outside AvaxHome, could be positive, but I'm almost sure that people shall not leave "Home" to go "outside", just for writing comments. About that, perhaps it's better for all of us to remember that "post" and "comments" are into diferent DataBases at this website, so, we have diferent capacities of text for the main post (above, with the pics, the links, owned by myself), and for the amount of comments. Once we have reached the limit in the post or in the comments lenght, I'll do another main page with direct link to this one (the old one). Or perhaps I'll ask moderators to delete the first comments and re-edit the main page again saving space... Ideas are welcomed... :-)

The second point is more serious: as Binbonbeach said, we must take care of certain rights that we are "broken" (despite that in the special case of MFSL albums, my personal opinion is that it's perhaps the only one moment when sharing a list of CDs ought to be allowed, due to the material imposibility of buying them anywhere)
About that, our Music Community is mature, stable and (the most important)... russian. That means that if you post these same albums in Germany, U.K., U.E. (in general), or U.S.A., our links would have a very short life(minutes only). BTW, us, AvaxHome Music Community are living a very special moment with this Project, that I never thought it could become reality.

So, please, let's finish with the Project inside "Home", and once it shall be finished, we can do what we want with our collection. I could feel very sad if suddenly all our links will be deleted...

About the third point, I think that our friend Pete2004 is making an incredible hard work uploading the albums to diferent mirrors for people with problems at RS. In addition, Binbonbeach has offered himself to support him in the future.. Great fellowship once again...

These are only my personal opinions... we need to think about this questions so slowly before act...

Your moment...

Note: Pete2004 said "PS: How's your baby?" so, I thought that perhaps you have one of your childrens sick, or similar. If it is so, our general support and good wishes... :-)

@toejam & @ALL

"There is a possibility that I could come up with a place to store the music, but it would require limited access, and only to those directly involved with this section. this could be discussed further if needed..."

This wise decision. This best decision.

Not all people feel necessity to listen to music in quality superB.
But for a small part of the present judges of quality is a project is a gift of destiny!
Therefore it is not necessary to advertise this project unduly!
The present judges will find it.
The present judges will transfer data on this project on a chain. From one person to another.
The moral gratitude of these people will be immeasurably more on force for you, than you receive from a plenty not music fans who find out this project through advertising. And which will pass by, not having understood difference MFSL from mp3.
This project for spiritual dialogue of fans by qualitative (true) of music among themselves. Let they will tell not much, but you will feel gratitude through an astral. As you receive a space charge from this qualitative music! It is absolute so!
It costs what to proceed for a long time!

@llamamama

Thanks! Grand merci! Spasibo!
You have admired me!
On a planet there will be few women who estimate qualitative music meaningly!
My experience speaks, that women estimate quality of music subconsciously, and try to leave in other room, if music poor-quality. On sounding and under the contents!
You the surprising woman! Thanks!

P.S.
My bad bad bad english!

"judges" - meloman ...etc
"You have admired me!" - I have admired You!

Still.
For many fans qualitative music this project the big joyful magic!
As on cover many albums which are in this project!
As though you have completely unexpectedly got in a magic unearthly garden!
These fantastic sensations! Thanks!

@VlaUga

Explain this idea, please... if you prefer in a PM... "a place to store the music"....

I liked a lot your sentences... I agree with you, tovarich... :-))

@alejx007
This is my bad english. I liked idea mr.toejam.

"store" - this is not "buy" & "sell" - this is place for reliable storage of all files project.

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@Binbonbeach - I agree with you. After thinking about these matters, these suggestions I made could cause more problems. I do not want our project to get shut down by forces outside of our control, that would be a tragedy for sure, so let's keep things as they are for now.
If we need to, we can always contact each other through private message on this site. As far as the alternative download links, I was hoping that some other Avaxians could step up and help Pete out. As you said, he is doing a lot of this hard work alone and it would be nice if other Avaxians who are enjoying this project but not able to contribute music could take some of the load off Pete. He is doing a mighty fine job already, but it must be such a huge burden for just one guy!

@Pete - thanks, Friend! My "baby" is fine. :) I believe you are talking about my sweetheart Mr. Muse since I do not have an actual "baby". Mr. Muse wanted me to tell you all how much he appreciates your efforts and great music. This team effort is saving us from going broke trying to collect these MFSL on our own!

@Toejam - Sorry for the confusion, my friend! Mr. Muse somehow got the idea that you were a woman and I said he was wrong. It's good to know I can tell him I'm right ... again, as usual! Haha!

Your idea of a private (members only) space is excellent! It could be a perfect longterm solution if Rapidshare doesn't work out. And if your space is not available, I have a few ideas on some others.


@alejx007 - Thanks for giving my suggestions some thought. As I said to Binbonbeach, I agree with you guys 100%. Your answers to my questions were especially good -- I have to agree with you entirely. Every single point you made is true and we are best being extra careful rather than take any chances. You are a champion for doing such a great job on Avax and I salute your efforts. Please let me know if there is any way that I can be more helpful.

As for treating us all (male and female) equally as persons, thank you! I agree with this 100%. I also try to do the same to everyone I meet whether online or off. I only mentioned it because if I was a man, Mr. Muse was concerned people would think he was gay. LOL! Not that there's anything wrong with that (we have gay friends), he just wanted you all to know.

And all things being equal, I have to confess it is wonderful to hear about Iceshoweronfire, Laila and Jozzie121 being women too. Very often I am only one of the few girls in the tech forums that I visit and it is very nice to know other women are involved also. Avax is a great place with many cool people. I look forward to getting to know everyone better --male and female.

@VlaUga - You are a wise and spiritual person. I understand your English perfectly and I agree with your thoughts. The music will spread at the pace it is meant to -- we don't need to make a big flashy noise on the web and risk getting punished. Friends will share with friends and everyone who cares about this quality music will have a chance to enjoy and experience it eventually. It's a real shame we have to always be looking over our shoulder for the bad guys, but unfortunately that's the way it is these days. Hopefully, this situation will turn around soon and in the years to come it will not be a crime to share music with friends anymore. That's the way it used to be and that's the way it should stay forever.

Have a great weekend, everyone! I'll be back later with the full post for MFSL Queen - News of the World.

I thougt about the different opinions too and I agree completly
with llamamama. For now we should make no noise, upload and download as fast as possible all discs, so that everybody has all discs. Staying in touch with each other, in case of
emergency we can "rebuild" the project very fast everywhere and at any time we like, simlpy assigning each member some discs
to "reupload".
Hopefully, like llamamama says, time will change for better but
till then we will follow our own conscience and share one of the assets belonging to humanity since it exists, music.
To all of you, a peaceful weekend!

I am working on getting space arranged on a private server for all the MFSL CD's to be stored on. It may take a few days, but at least they will be safe there. Im not entirely sure how this will be setup because not just anyone will have access to it. My thought is one-by-one I can get each contributor their own login to the server.

I am working on getting space arranged on a private server for all the MFSL CD's to be stored on. It may take a few days, but at least they will be safe there. Im not entirely sure how this will be setup because not just anyone will have access to it. My thought is one-by-one I can get each contributor their own login to the server. One VERY important thing though - if anyone, and I mean anyone is caught sharing their login information with someone outside this group, it will mean the end to that persons access.

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@toejam

I think moving this project to private space would be the end of it. What about storing the older ones on private server and publish the newer ones here in this great forum ?

@ALL
Whether participants of the project "alive" CD MFSL Pink Floyd "The Wall" and The Beatles "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" own?
Very much I ask these great albums in quality of " an image of a disk ".
Initially these albums are made as a unit, therefore only the image of a disk (for example WAV+CUE) can transfer them correctly.
Unfortunately, The Beatles "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" which is in the project there is no original CD MFSL.
"The Wall" it is broken on separate files with a source as I have understood discussion, "eMule". Very vaguely and doubtfully.
If at private traders of the project have alive CD of these albums, very much I ask to update in a qualitative image of a disk (CUE+WAV).
Thanks.

I agree with VlaUga. Both albums do not have the required quality we all want to have. Maybe someone can repost them in
perfect quality. There was another "post" of The Wall, Flac -files, but the password is missing, maybe someone knows it and can tell me.

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I just did an audio analysis of cd 1 (Pink Floyd-the wall-shn). The source seems to be authentic, meaning CD-DA (tool is 95%+ correct). Now of course this doesn´t tell you anything about how accurate it is to the original in the sense of TOC nor any offsets.

@pete2004

Does it mean both are not MFSL-CDs ?

@The unexpected rooster: It means the rip is from a CD, not from a beefed up lossy source like mp3. It could be from a reg. CD, here you have to trust your source OR better have the log files, cue sheets included.

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Above is different rip. It includes log, cue-sheets, etc..

Considering I'm not sure what I'm doing, here's my first try. Any helpful comments would be appreciated. This is Ten Years After - Ssssh.../Cricklewood Green. I used CD Clone according to Toejams instructions and uploaded it to rapidshare. It's the music and the covers. Here's the links.

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http://rapidshare.de/files/22198803/tyascg.part02.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/22200747/tyascg.part03.rar.html
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I´ve just been informed, that there are apparently some "clicks" between the tracks. For the time being I´ll leave the links alive, but you´ve been warned. And :SORRY:

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@All

Hello everybody after weekend... I hope you have spent a very nice time...

Well, about the first question: a special "storage" site for our MFSL albums.... ummm, I don't know, I think it ought to cost money... and I don't see the necessity to do it... the files are on safe at my HD... :-))

RS is a nice place for the most of us to upload and download the files (I agree that a few of us have problems with RS but our collegues are creating mirrors). Only one MFSL album has been deleted (King Krimson) and it was uploaded by Serial inmediatly. The rest are inmaculated :-)))

If any other shall be deleted (one or two more) Serial has offered "freely" to upload them as soon as possible.

I am being as quicklest as possible in downloading any MFSL posted, preventing this situation. I recomend any of yourselves to do the same.

After that all the albums are on safe at my HD and burned inmediatly too...

How fast could be to upload and download speed to/from our private storage site...?? whom shall manage the access to it..??? How can we avoid that any authority can break our security if all is explained here??? Ummm...

We must think about this point....

Second... bobby joe bradley ... well, you promised me that your first one should be Peter Frampton: Comes Alive... :-))) first fault... Despite that, can you prepare a post for your links or do you prefer I do it?? I will send you a txt file that you can use as template for this and future posts, if you want ... just say me. I think that any MFSL album deserves a post in main pages, as minimum.

third: I have THE WALL without clicks... no problem with it... are you sure???

fourth: new MFSL from me coming soon. Now it's too late, but it shall be out in a few hours. The fourth rar file had to be uploaded more than 6 times. RS cut the upload 5 times...

A text file to help would be great. Sorry about Frampton, It's up in the attic, I'll climb up there tomorrow. I had a couple gold discs laying around and decided to do them, that's why it ended up being Ten Years After. I'll do Frampton, I promise. I agree about posting in the main pages, I'm just not sure how.

@alejx007:

I agree with you. The safest place is our HDs. RS ist a good thing and if an album is lost is is updated soon.

@All:

Does anybody use the original MFSL CD-Rs to burn these albums ? Can you here a difference between them and "normal" CD-Rs ?

@bobby joe bradley:

Thank you very much for this album. Burned it without any problems !

One way to ensure the safety of the storage server is to give each contributing member their own login - if someone from a different ip (or ip range if on dial-up)accesses it, the log will show from which account it came from. Appropriate action can then be taken.

@The unexpected rooster

I use the EMTEC 24 carat Gold only for our MFSL Project and I'm very happy with them. But as VlaUga said, I think that the biggest difference with the normal ones is durability. Longer life. Sound is the same for me. And presentation is also nice, I've taken all covers in HR to a specialist printing center, and they have printed all of them for me in an unbelievable quality, including the CDs label... I'm very happy with result.

@Toejam

I know what you mean, but I still don't see how important it can be for our Project. At this moment we have more than 58 albums posted, any of them is missing. People is taking them without problem from RS or Pete2004 mirrors, the download speed is nice, everybody is happy... :-) So, I don't see why we need a restricted storage server for a cuple of members only... :-))

@Bobby Joe Bradley

I'm preparing the template for you... just wait, please...

Ok, no problem - it was just an idea for safe backup is all.

Steely Dan - Aja, and Elton John - Goodbye Yellowbrick Road arrived, I will post them soon :)

@bobby joe bradley

I've posted the Ten Years After for you, using this template.

http://rapidshare.de/files/22319561/TEMPLATE_MFSL.rtf

I hope you can use it for your future posts... if you have any doubt, please write a PM to me directly or write a comment in here...

Enjoy your posts...

@Toejam

Great... very good news...

@alejx007

Thanky you for this EMTC-advise. Printing center is a very good idea !

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Hi, sorry, I forgot to say you that it's better to open the template with MS WordPad (Start, Programs, Accesories, WordPad)

Hello, friends. I wish I had 12 more ears and six doppelgangers so that I could listen to all of this excellent music you're all posting right now! :D Thanks a million for all of the great stuff. My dear Mr. Muse has some request whenever you have the time:

Bobby Joe Bradley

Elton John - Madman Across the Water
Jeff Beck - Wired
Otis Redding - Otis Blue
Steely Dan - Gaucho


Binbonbeach

Neil Diamond - Hot August Night (cd1 and cd2)
Steve Winwood - Talking Bach To The Night

Alejx007

Cream - 1967 Disraeli Gears
Cream - 1969 Goodbye
The Beatles - Yellow Submarine
The Byrds - 1965 Mr. Tambourine Man

Anybody - Yes - Fragile

@All - Re: the private storage option, I think we should discuss this further by Private Message or encrypted email only. Personally, I still like the idea not just for MFSL, but eventually I would like to upload my entire HDs of music for safe-keeping. It makes me feel better if disaster strikes (fire, flood, whatever) to know that our collection which we have worked so hard to attain is being held safe offsite somewhere. Having a few friends access these files does not bother me one bit. Avax is still the place to gather and post, I'm just talking about longterm storage solutions... Take care! Keep posting. I will have more later in the week too.

@alejx007:

I tried the EMTEC-CD-Rs. Very good result, but I think my CD-Player likes the MPO HiSpace Vinyl Carbon CD-Rs a little bit more.I'll keep testing.

@All:

A small request:

Anybody able to upload the two Don Henley MFSLs ?? Would be great, thank you !

@All

Well, I think we have reached the limit of text capacity in this post... I've written to the moderator asking for instructions or any advise.

I'll tell you about this.

Start a new post and call it MFSL project 2 !?

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@All

OK, the moment is NOW...!!! I'll try to split the main page of the MFSL Project...

Wait, please, until the Moderator place the NEW ONE in the correct place.

Obviously, I'll place links to the OLD ONE in the NEW.

It's time to cancel this post

THANKS FOR JMJ!!!